started a trade for your creakwood

a month of trying to trade and i've yet to have anyone offer me a creakwood

Offer me your plansies, creakwoods and avenger's of zendikars please  cool

timesnewspartan wrote:
morph66 wrote:
timesnewspartan wrote:

Tone it down a little bit, Walter Whiteknight.

Obviously, it's wrong to trade codes but I don't think banning everybody the first time they do something wrong is really called for. That's why suspension is a thing. I think suspension is the right way to go here. If he does it again, ban him for good and label him a scammer. Seems like the most reasonable way of going about this.

Dude, could you just be a little bit more respectful here. I don't think the name calling is really necessary in this instance. My point was that he did something that is very obvious wrong, was called out on it, and still maintained his right to "scam"

This isn't some small thing here, this is blatant theft with complete lack of remorse once being caught. He knew full well it was a scam, he just didn't see the harm in it. That's dangerous.

If I'm not mistaken, you were suspended at one point for abusive language. By your logic, you should be banned.


actually to be fair i was suspended for being rude and probably condescending. I made amends and was unbanned long beofre it was due to be over. I am attempting at turning over a new leaf, I am not really sure why you are throwing it in my face. I don't see how this is the same as stealing hundreds of dollars from users here. Oh well, you have the right to your opinion. I just don't get the point of pointing out my previous flaws of being rude, when you are name calling here and being just as rude. It's a tad hypocritical from where i'm sitting. My intention here was obviously a good one and the looking out for feelow members. I hope you try to curb your opion and see it for what it was.

Anyways hugs and kisses for everyone. If I offended anyone here for reporting this then I apologize as well. I re-read everything I posted to stay PC and not be rude. Let's just let this die and get back to some trading smile

timesnewspartan wrote:

Tone it down a little bit, Walter Whiteknight.

Obviously, it's wrong to trade codes but I don't think banning everybody the first time they do something wrong is really called for. That's why suspension is a thing. I think suspension is the right way to go here. If he does it again, ban him for good and label him a scammer. Seems like the most reasonable way of going about this.

Dude, could you just be a little bit more respectful here. I don't think the name calling is really necessary in this instance. My point was that he did something that is very obvious wrong, was called out on it, and still maintained his right to "scam"

This isn't some small thing here, this is blatant theft with complete lack of remorse once being caught. He knew full well it was a scam, he just didn't see the harm in it. That's dangerous.

We don't even get the promos in quebec because of some lottery law. I personally had to get a friend from tennesse to redeem my 2 codes for me for buying the 360 and ios versions.

I had to pay 7 bucks in shipping to get my 1 copy of an ooze and 1 bonescythe, so yeah i'm going to get mad when people like cowabunga make a good 600$ in profit recycle the same codes to empty out the stores stock and line their pockets.

Look at odamjames's traderecord, the guy was literally opening up a trade with every single person he saw post on this forum asking them if they wanted apart of this, then a chain effect happens.

It hurts us all guy's, so think twice about getting cards in these ways and not reporting it when you are approached.

sebi wrote:
timesnewspartan wrote:

It doesn't matter if they get the cards or not. The codes are to be used for ONE card each. Sure, a lot of us probably went to 4 different stores with it but nobody tried bringing other people into by TAKING THEIR CARDS for a code that's already been used.

Is this common knowledge that codes can be reused? Were other trades going on on deckbox involving these codes? Please let us know at support@deckbox.org . We are probably going to gather more information and contact Wizards regarding this.

It was supposed to be fixed this year after last years fiasco. When the codes were first launched this year people on gamefaqs were trading android codes for steam codes, and ps3 codes for xbox360 codes. I guess in the end the merchants just didn't have to insert the codes online to see if they were redeemed or not, which allows people like odan and cowabunga to take advantage of the situation.

It is really scary that even though he knew he was scamming that there is no remorse there and he thought he was in his right to do so. People like this should be permanently banned from the site as the next time an opportunity arises to take advantages of people, you better believe these guy's are going to take advantage of the situation.

odanjames wrote:
sebi wrote:

odanjames, please cancel all your open trades involving those duplicated codes. If you traded them already to someone, please send their cards back or you will be marked a scammer.

I will be contacting the trade partners of cowabunga2. If the codes are duplicated, he will be banned for lying to us and marked a scammer if he does not return the cards to all people that received duplicated codes.

In response to these complications, we will not allow trading of codes anymore on deckbox. Thank you for understanding.

i have not traded any away . as for the cards i owe too cowabunga2 for codes should i be sending him them cards for them codes . and all my trades with these are canceled .

Well you are lucky in a way you only managed to scam  http://deckbox.org/trades/125558?s=41280 before this got put to an end. So consider yourself lucky. The damage combunga2 has done is huge, it's going to take awhile for the admins to clean up this mess. Plus the fact that the people you guy's did business with might be doing it aswell...

I would probably consider apologizing to the community in this thread for blatantly disregarding the fact what you were doing was a scam when everyone was telling you it was. That's just me though. My opinion is that you knew what you were doing was bad yet didn't feel any remorse for doing it because everyone got their cards. You are a dangerous trader and i'm actually quite shocked you're both allowed to continue trading. Not my call though, so we have to respect the sites decision.

I'm done here. Thanks to the admins for a swift course of actions and feel for them having to clean up all these transactions. I hope I helped by bringing this to their attention.

neutral neutral neutral neutral neutral

price asking?

It's still a scam james, that's what you aren't understanding here.

odanjames wrote:

every trader im talking to will be going to a store redeeming these codes getting their cards before i have them send anything to me i honestly don't care what u all think. if they get there and dont recieve there packs then they wont send me anything and case will be closed .

Exactly, you are trading nothing. You are getting cards for nothing here. You are using by your own admission a scam. Surely you gotta see what's going on here? This is called fraud dude. You got everyone telling you it's not right and you shouldn't do it, yet you keep explaining your position and repeat offending.

Odan almost every single one of your open trades is for 4x promo oozes asking for 35-60$ worth in trade. emrakul, mistyrainforests.  You are offering people nothing for their cards other then 4 used codes you got from another user doing the exact same thing you are. By your own admission nonetheless.

Looking to collect all the planeswalkers. I can offer up my tradelist and possibly my inventory depending on which ones are being offered. I only want Mint/Near mint cards. So basically pack fresh stuff, no scuffs/marks.  http://www.starcitygames.com/pages/cardconditions if it doesn't fall in the M/NM category, i really don't want them offered. Thanks

http://deckbox.org/sets/365039?s=j&o=d&f=336
Let me know if i'm missing any

I also have a tarmogoyf i'd like to trade I don't really want to trade my Goyf across the border.

Also in need of
4 creakwood lieges
Avenger of zendikar

I also have about 10 000 commons/uncommons so if there is anything specific you are looking for I can tell you if i have it pretty quick as I have everything organized by colour/cost/type. If you need small stuff I have no problem adding extra value your way.

Start up a trade and offer me your planeswalkers or make me an offer on my Tarmogoyf  cool>:)

Cheers

outofstep wrote:
Kei_Asaki wrote:
morph66 wrote:

Technically you are, people buy these games and when they go redeem the codes at a store they are usually always out of the promo packs. The point is more you are lining your pocket's with ill gotten gains.

This right here.

You are actually scamming stores by spreading out hacked or previously redeemed codes.  There was a major problem with this last year and it caused a lot of potential new, or newly started players to miss out on something that they should have rightfully received.

I felt that your pushiness when you offered me a playset of codes was the attitude of someone who had to offload something that was stolen, or counterfeit.  I have no way of proving that it actually is, but if you have as many codes as offers that you have opened (and judging by your trade page, that is a LOT of codes), then you either: a) bought 40+ copies of DOTP2014 for PC/tablet/whatever, or b) found a way to crack the code pattern.

If it is a, then not really the brightest business decision, unless you're running an arcade.  If b, then you should be reported and banned.

He's doing one of two things...

1. He or someone else cracked the key generator code and he's just spewing out fake codes to everyone for whatever he can get.

2. He had four (4) legit key codes from buying that many copies of the game, which he already redeemed for himself. Knowing that the game stores don't log the codes in anywhere as "redeemed" he's now trading those same four codes out to random people to redeem at their LGS.

The first one is scumbaggery at its finest, but the second should be a deckbox bannable offense, and here's why. Each of those codes should be viewed as if it were a single card, one card per code, just as if I had one copy of Scavenging Ooze in my trade list. Once I trade that ooze, I cannot trade it to 17 other people as it's already gone. If these guys are trading the same code to multiple people, then that's like trading cards they don't own. Furthermore, someone could attempt to redeem a code and find no LGS within a reasonable distance with them still in stock, hence they traded cards for nothing.

It's my opinion that the mods should attempt to contact people that made trades for these codes and ask them to see said codes. If there are duplicates - bans should be swift. Also, I think the site rules should be amended to prevent trading of these game codes. If you want to trade promo Scavenging Ooze, then go get the cards yourself and put them in your trade list.

He's even said he's recycling the same 4 codes and as per his words he's just getting what he can for them from each person he contacts. It's safe for the people trading with them because the codes are worth nothing and they can give them out and even if they don't get paid they STILL can keep re-selling the same code to other people. (Make the trade with me, take the code and after you get your promos then send me the cards) There is no risk just like the person who got the code could just claim they didn't work, pocket their 4 oozes and pay them nothing, Rinse repeat and any local game store stupid enough to take 4 promos for the same app. Just look at their transactions, some are for like 5 bucks worth of cards. They basically contact a user here, offer them the codes, start high and end up negotiating for anything they can get. Some transactions are for a few unhinged lands, 1 italian promo card, 1 breeding ground. Some poor schmucks actually sent them 60$ worth of cards for them.

This is seriously despicable. If cowabunga did infact contact a mod and they didn't put a stop to it, deckbox should find out who that mod is and fire them.   I can't believe these guy's are syphoning hundreds of dollars of cards from the community and nobody wants to put a stop to it.

This is a scam, plain and simple

odanjames wrote:

Look I'm not hurting anyone here and I have not intended to do anyone the wrong way I was laughing when I realized how he was doing it an figured why not for stores that don't use them codes by dec. They will have to trash em . Why not get them in someones hands and of course I start high like 60$ but don't mind dropping to whatever I can get they are free cards.a lot of you seem pretty quick to judge someone with little reason

Technically you are, people buy these games and when they go redeem the codes at a store they are usually always out of the promo packs. The point is more you are lining your pocket's with ill gotten gains.

I felt it was reportable. You guy's are also fluffing your trade reputation without actually sending out any cards. So you have a bunch of great trader comments when nobody knows whether or not you are actually trustworthy.

Cowabunga2 wrote:
morph66 wrote:

wow what the hell he's doing this trade for 60$ worth of cards over ten times. How is this even allowed?
I reported this post and sent an email to an admin. As a community we should look after each other and not allow people to take advantage of things like this. He is essentially syphoning 600$+ of cards from traders.

Or is this capitalism?

I have already spoken with a moderator through email and have informed him how i got the codes that i got.

Thanks for your concern but I have not done anything wrong, and have not screwed a single person through trade.


oh i'm sure you are giving out the codes, I'm saying the fact you are re-using the codes is what is shady here. You found a loophole to exploit and are racking up hundreds of dollars of cards by re-using a set of codes. Funny how you came here to defend this post even though it has nothing to do with you. My guess is Odanjames messages you in one of your previous trades with him freaking out, and you've come to do damage control.

you started trading them for 60$ worth of cards, then if you look through all your trade you start offering them for 30$ 20$  22$  a breeding pool. Basically whatever someone was willing to offer.

This really seems wrong.

wow what the hell he's doing this trade for 60$ worth of cards over ten times. How is this even allowed?
I reported this post and sent an email to an admin. As a community we should look after each other and not allow people to take advantage of things like this. He is essentially syphoning 600$+ of cards from traders.

Or is this capitalism?

creakwood liege
avenger of zendikar
jet medallion
nissa revane
sapphire medallion




available?

outofstep wrote:
JackSwindle wrote:

Looks like he traded them off of Cowabunga2.  Cowabunga2 got them from hacking the game, or from someone who's hacked or by some other illicit means.  He would have given you a code for a $5 card.  You got swindled.  Especially since no stores (least none in my area) even have them anymore.  No stores had steam ones after the second day because of the stupid hack shit.

But good luck trading them!

Yea, that dude tried to dump a bunch of codes on me. He told me that he, or whoever, cashed out a game credit card on copies of DotP and that's why he had so many to trade... so I took a look at his current pending trade list.

At the time, Cowbunga2 had 24 Pending Trades. Of those 24, 17 of them were offering Scavenging Ooze promo codes for other people's cards. In those 17 trades, Cowbunga2 was offering a total of 61 promo codes and, with the cheapest price on Steam being $9.99, that means they would have had to cash out over $600 on credit.

Bullshit.

So basically odanjames got these same codes and is doing the same thing?

i'm interested in a few things, i opened up a trade, you can have a look

good luck with the oblits, it took me 3 weeks to strike a trade for a few of them

odanjames wrote:

Message me if your interested


You realize the majority of stores have  run out of these card packs long ago.

busy board is busy,

Let's make  a deal

opened up a trade

Are you willing to trade out of your inventory? or are you just looking to uptrade?

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Kammikaze wrote:
morph66 wrote:

just because I have to ask

- If you propose a trade with me and don't say anything in the chat, I will completely ignore the trade even if it is a trade I would like to make.

how come?

If you were trading in person, would you pull the cards you want out of the other person's trade binder and just hold them out in front of them?


awww dude i totally read the opposite, i thought you said if they say anything you won't make the trade. That's why I was confused by the request. Yeah that totally makes sense, i feel the same way