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sebi wrote:d72B, this thread has always felt to me like I'm being "grilled" and pressured into responding, with periodical reminders of my failings.
I am not quite sure I am comfortable with the level of transparency (on a public forum) that some of these questions require.
Sebi, I want to preface this by saying I love deckbox, and just want to see it grow, but as the creator and only person that we can ask questions to, we kinda deserve some level of transparency. Hell, even a bi weekly, "Hi, guys, I am still working on this and this issue. Still incoming." Instead we get an "Ok, ill look into it, and then no response.
asrttyoxo wrote:In the past, Sebi has declined users who offered to help for free as moderators, and is one of the reasons that there is a current Premium option.
Which in my opinion is absolutely useless. Yes, your problem will be addressed first but that still does nothing when you have already been scammed and there is no way to let others really know unless they make a post, which most might not read. So it is not solving any issues.
Also the scammer is targeting new member, who most likely have not gotten Premium since they are just testing the site out and giving it a trial run. So there is nothing in place to protect them.
I have never been affected by a scammer, but if a site does nothing to help protect new users, even turning down free help, well it is a site that I might not want to be a part of.
TechnicolorMage wrote:valdor wrote:traceurling wrote:There really should be a restriction that prevents new users from trading with new users so that they don't walk into scams until they have enough rep that they can ask new users to send first.
Sebi is trying to work on something like that. The original idea was rejected due to it limiting new users to only trading with new users. Though as we have seen, new users trading with only new users is still ripe for scamming. I actually think it makes it easier. It is better to just stop accounts from being a scammer by having to go through a small review when activated (checking the address against the known scammer list) and then having the community help to police accounts and notify mods when suspicious activity is noticed.
Yep. As it stands right now, does Sebi even know this Des guy is back? If not, what a window of opportunity to rip users off.
We need to stand together as a community and have zero tolerance for these users, and to all unite together and make things safer for the community as a whole.
I have all emailed Sebi telling him to look at this thread ASAP, as he needs to look into the situation immediately. I also asked him if there is any mod team at all or just him.
traceurling wrote:There really should be a restriction that prevents new users from trading with new users so that they don't walk into scams until they have enough rep that they can ask new users to send first.
Sebi is trying to work on something like that. The original idea was rejected due to it limiting new users to only trading with new users. Though as we have seen, new users trading with only new users is still ripe for scamming. I actually think it makes it easier. It is better to just stop accounts from being a scammer by having to go through a small review when activated (checking the address against the known scammer list) and then having the community help to police accounts and notify mods when suspicious activity is noticed.
TheWorldHatesPaul wrote:valdor wrote:So I don't know programming or anything like that, how hard is it to add a "report user" button in all profiles and when clicked will send an automated email to a specific (or all??) mod team. Someone can look into the account and if it looks suspicious, the can then lock down the account until a full investigation is complete. These mods can have a personal list of everyone on the scammer list do to comparison. If found guilty the kids can then fully ban an account.
Edit: I am going to email Sebi directly and point him to this thread in case he has not seen it.
Programmatically it is trivial. The issue is with it being abused and staffing/man hours.
Well as I have said, I am willing to give my time to help with this so there is a little bit of the man hours. As for it being abused, well that is up to Sebi to makes sure that he chooses people that he feels can be trusted. As for other users abusing it well that is the job of the mods to investigate. If users abuse the system and falsely accuse multiple accounts for no reason, there should be punishment for that.
I am just attempting to provide suggestions that might help scammers. I realize it may not be a huge issue but a faster response time would always be good. It even helps with disputes. I hated when I had a despute I would have to wait 5/days for an initial response and then 2 or 3/days for a follow up response.
So I don't know programming or anything like that, how hard is it to add a "report user" button in all profiles and when clicked will send an automated email to a specific (or all??) mod team. Someone can look into the account and if it looks suspicious, the can then lock down the account until a full investigation is complete. These mods can have a personal list of everyone on the scammer list do to comparison. If found guilty the kids can then fully ban an account.
Edit: I am going to email Sebi directly and point him to this thread in case he has not seen it.
TheAlexander wrote:This comes on the heels of Sebi saying they want more money for this website. I wouldn't pay a dime until they start having people wait for admin approval before their accounts are accepted.
While I totally get the sentiment, on the flipside, Sebi might not be able to do what he wants/needs until he acquires more revenue. That is why I said I would act as a mod in some compacity for free, just to help. I am online everyday for my job anyways might as well do something else when I am slow.
Is it only Sebi modding the site?/it seems like there needs to be more people watching for this and an easy report user button. Hell, I am on Deckbox almost everyday. I would be willing to act as a mod for people to report these issue to and investigate. I would do it for free.
Is there a way that accounts can be frozen if someone is under investigation. There should be.
Edit: unless I missed it, there is no way to report an account if if is suspicious. I love this site and do not want the reputation tarnished buy a single insistent scammer.
Bump. Got the Glimmer Void
As the title, I am looking to get 4 Mox Oplas (as well as anything else on my WL). I have plenty of staples.
Because it is a single guy that does everything on the site and not a team like most other sites are. Just chill and give it time.
Is there a list of what he wants? I have a friend looking for a Berserk so if I can get a list of wants I can pass it along to him.
So your plan is to only play cards that punish your opponent for using lands?
Are you looking to only use cards you own?
Is there a format you are looking for?
Do you have a general deck archetype that you enjoy?
If you are going to be lazy and have other build your deck for you, you need to give some context and guidelines.
Amurphcs wrote:Im interested in knowing what the average number of transactions open are for users on here? Personally i only try to keep 1 or 2 open at once
I go through spurts but I will only ever keep a max of 5 or 6 trades going at the same time.
Hi, I will look through your list but I feel compelled to say this, please please don't just post a huge text wall of all your haves. It is really annoying to have to scroll down and most users won't look at that. They will just pop over to your profile and see what you have vs what you need. This saves you time as well as us. Usually just post your wants and a few comparable value card you have for trade.
Well at this point, I think a majority of people are against potential rule as is stands. I am perfectly wiling to go with the will of the people.
Do you have anything else that isnt posted? Your TL has almost noting worth the price of Shocks, much less Fetchs
sebi wrote:valdor wrote:Ill be honest sebi, that is kinda unfair to say. I love deckbox but I dont pay for premium. Instead I support deckbox by telling everyone I know about it and convincing people to try and join. I promote the site where I can. So saying that you can only support by paying money seems unfair to those that dont have credit/debit cards or are extremely tight on money that even $5/months is too much.
Sure, this is why ANY kind of payment information is accepted, you do not have to be premium. Which means you can buy or sell, or whichever way you prefer.
Having zero verification on our users is a very bad position to be in, because there is nothing we can do against scammers when they do not even have to show a credit card or paypal account to trade cards worth thousands of dollars.
That is fair. I did not consider the buying/selling bit so I can concede to that.
sebi wrote:El_Panda_Rojo wrote:The biggest issue I have is that people like myself who only trade on deckbox, not buy or sell, will never be able to get to level 4. I bought a card using the site one time, but for the most part if I'm spending money then I'm just going to do it using tcgplayer. However, I have hundreds of completed trades over a couple of years with 100% positive feedback - why should that exclude me from this "level 4" just because I don't have a credit card on file? Maybe I just don't want to put in my card info. That doesn't mean I'm a less reliable trader. Either change the criteria or scrap the idea, please.
So you consider the community a useful tool for you but you would not even consider supporting it by becoming a premium member, thus you wish that the idea be scrapped 
Ill be honest sebi, that is kinda unfair to say. I love deckbox but I dont pay for premium. Instead I support deckbox by telling everyone I know about it and convincing people to try and join. I promote the site where I can. So saying that you can only support by paying money seems unfair to those that dont have credit/debit cards or are extremely tight on money that even $5/months is too much.
9700377 wrote:As detailed in the OP, this is a terrible idea, at least for me. If I want to trade with a new user, I'm *unable* to do something worth more than $50 with them? Allegedly for my own protection??? Under this rule, this would ban probably 25% of the trades I do.
I could see these restrictions making sense for newer users trading with each other. But for experienced users trading with newer users who will be sending first, this would be unacceptably restrictive.
I hope this is an "obvious" error. I think most messy situations arise when new users trade with each other, not when new users trade with more-experienced users. The latter circumstance does not need any additional protections, especially those that make viable trades impossible.
The proposed rule is to cut down on a potential scammers. Messy situations happen all the time and are not limited to new users. Hell I have had only one issue myself with trading and it was with a user that had more trades then I did. Are there suggestions to improve on the rule? Increase the limits? Or are you opposed to the whole thing in general?
Though the amount of times I see profiles that are potential scammers is kinda high. I am willing to sacrifice some trades to make sure I am protected from a scammer.
This all sounds really fair. My question in can I still ask a user with say only 15 trades (this should make them Level 3 if all trades were bigger and they met the time requirement) to still send first even though we are both level 3 but I have 85 more trades? Or since we are both level 3 we are required to simul-send?
Bump. Still really looking for those priorities.
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