Yeah that's the problem, there's no way to guarantee that I didn't just scan another NM copy I have then slip in the damaged copy. At the same time, that's why I want something to cover my ass: there's nothing to say this guy isn't trying to get me to replace a damaged copy of his own for him. I guess that's why we have feedback, I'm letting my reputation speak for itself in this dispute. I would not risk a spotless record for an $8 card with an indentation in it. It's clear the card IS damaged, but all I know is that happened after the card left my possession. I honestly just think the guy's trying to pull a fast one, as you said, he only has 16 feedback or something so I don't really place that much trust in what he's claiming.

That's the big downfall of internet trading in general.  It's really hard to prove anything.  Like someone above said, even with DC you could have a trader claim that a) the cards arrived but were damaged or b) the cards arrived but were missing the most expensive cards.  Unless you're willing to videotape yourself packaging the card, walking to the mailbox, and dropping it in, you can't 100% cover your ass with anything.

Mistbeaver wrote:

Is it only USA to Canada that needs to fill out a custom form?

I've never once had to fill out one from Canada to US. I walk in hand them my letters/bubble mailers say I need to ship this and that's it.

Yea, it sounds like USPS is a lot more stingy about what they consider a "letter" and what they consider a "small parcel".  I've never had to fill one out either, I've even stopped going to the post office for the most part other than to pick up new stamps (unless its 6 or more cards I'm shipping.)  I just toss my cards in an envelope or bubbler, stamp it, and drop it in the mailbox outside my house.

I was using 0.5% as my base risk (rough estimate based on the rough numbers i referenced above)  0.5+0.5-0.5^2 = 0.75 vs the 0.5 of trading in usa, difference 0.25.

you're right, the risk is higher than i initially implied. and yes, dc is a different issue.   internet-truce? smile

As an actuary, your math isn't completely correct (look up union of independent probabilities, its not just base risk + base risk, you have so subtract the combined risk).

the point i'm trying to make, is that it seems a little unreasonable to exclude a large portion of the deckbox population from trading with you over an extra 0.5% (probably less) chance of you mail being lost.

internet fights aren't my thing, i was hoping my post would be deleted before it fed the fire..

I wish for the life of me I could find the study, but an investigation done about 10ish years ago had something like the following for USPS:

5% of mail does not reach sender, of that
- 3% is returned to sender
- 1% is forwarded
- 1% is discarded

It's not exact, but you're looking at roughly 1% of mail being trashed.  This is including mail that is a) illegible, and b) not given a "return address", c) sent by incompetent people.  this was over 10 years ago, not sure if things have gotten worse or better, but losing 3 packages of 186 is definitely higher than average.

that's not really the point though.  were these trades all lost because they were international (if they were all international)? or just because of bad luck?  the point i'm trying to make with this (albeit i didn't know alot of these annoying policies of the US mail system) is that even though it's a little more work for trades involving lots of cards, you aren't really increasing your exposure to loss by trading to canada.

Vincentarasin wrote:

The cost and inability to TRACK packages (without paying ~$40) to/from canada is my issue.

I've done some international trading, and I actually have an envelope going out to canada today. Its few and far between though. I don't like it. I cant prove mine got there, and the person sending it cant prove I got it.

Plus the customs forms are annoying as hell to fill out.


Having an issue with tracking basically means you have an issue with trust.  If that's the problem, just have your partner send first.  Statistically speaking, the probability of your letter being lost in the mail is infinitesimal.

Really??  Bubble-mailer in Canada is considered lettermail if the weight of its contents are less than 30 grams (about 5-6 cards sandwiched between 2 top loaders is normally right on 30g).  If it's lettermail, no custom forms required, you just need to use two stamps instead of one, so total cost is $2.10 + the bubble mailer.  If it's more than 30 grams it's considered a Parcel, then it requires customs forms and a couple extra bucks.

I don't know if it's just me, but I've noticed an increasing number of traders from the US that won't trade into Canada and vice versa.  The reasons I always hear are "it's too expensive," "it takes too long," "i'm not sure how it works cross border."  So I thought I'd come in and clear some things up.

How to ship between US and Canada
- Use plain lettermail, in a bubble mailer or a plain envelope, whatever is agreed on.  Attach an international stamp (or two if it's a bubble mailer)
- Drop in mailbox, very simple

Cost of shipping
- Cost is only the stamp.  International stamps cost $1 going US -> Canada, and $1.05 going Canada -> US.  This is less than $0.50 more than it costs to send a letter domestically

Shipping time
- This is the biggest one for people, and has the biggest misconception
- out of my 30ish trades, I'd say about 20-25 are to the US (I'm from Canada).  MAYBE 3 of these trades have taken more than 5 business days to mail, and it was only because my trading partner lived in a very rural area of the country
- 95% of your trades btw Canada and US will take the exact same amount of time as a trade to an outside state or province in your own country.  In fact, I've noticed that trades coming from British Columbia -> Ontario consistently take 2-3 days longer than trades from any city in the US.  It's bullshit and/or bad luck that trades from the US to Canada take 2+ weeks.  95% of the time you're looking at 5-7 business days or less.


I hope this helps encourage more Canada <-> US trading, and change the minds of some of those "My country only" traders.  There's really no reason to hold this policy, and it sucks for other traders.  The cost and shipping time is the same, and the process is the same.  If you're big shtick is with delivery confirmation, quit being so paranoid.  The chances of you getting ripped off with DC are about as slim as your chances of being ripped off without it.  Even so, there's no reason to COMPLETELY shut out a country from trading.  If DC is such a big deal, make them send first if they don't have enough feedback, don't cut out the country completely.

/rant

interested in trading? i could make up a config including seachrome coast for silverblade and a few dollar edh uncommons/rares

haha fair enough. i'm open to offers regardless

I'd prefer not to go out of inventory, but I'd be open to the right offer.

Nothing can come out of my decks though (lists are on my profile).  Other than that, shoot me an offer and I'll let you know if anything needs to be adjusted.

Bump!

Looking for a playset, possibly interested in a foil.  Check my list and send a config!

Looking to get a playset, possibly interested in foils.  Check me list and send me a config!

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offer sent!

As in title, main wants are snappys, geists, lillys, and shocks.

selling for $15 shipped.

trade-value  $17

What's your price for the shiny Rakdos' Return and Jace? (separate and together)

Selling on Ebay for $17-20, last one on here sold for $15, so I'm fine doing the same.  Shipping included if you're okay with plain envelope, shipping $1.25 if you want a bubble-mailer.  paypal gift only please smile

Valuing at about $20 trade-value.

As seen in title.  Promo is selling on Ebay for about $17-20.  I'm happy to do $15 shipped via paypal (gift). 

Valuing at $20 trade-value

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Hey all! Looking for the following foils to bling out my standard grixis deck.  Valuing foils at TrollandToad.com prices.

2x Tragic Slip
2x Rakdos Keyrune
1x Barter in Blood (AVR)
2x Mutilate
2x Dreadbore
1x Rakdos's Return
1x Devour Flesh
1x Syncopate
3x Psychic Strike

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Hey all! Looking for the following foils to bling out my standard grixis deck.  Valuing foils at TrollandToad.com prices.

2x Rakdos Keyrune
1x Barter in Blood (AVR)
2x Mutilate
2x Dreadbore
1x Rakdos's Return
1x Devour Flesh
1x Syncopate
3x Psychic Strike

So where do they announce the winner??

I have a playset for trade, I can definitely make a configuration from your list.  I'd have to ask you to send first though, given you have no feedback yet.

I'll send a config your way.

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last trade fell through, bumping this.