Re: [DGM] - Dragon's Maze

m0nstersnatch wrote:
TudorGrigoroaia wrote:

Update pe mtgsalvation in legatura cu landul mitic.

Our source has provided an update. Apparently the card is more akin to Thawing Glaciers, reading something like this:

tap: Add 1 to your mana pool.
3, tap: Search your library for a Gate card and put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library. Return ~ to its owner's hand. At the beginning of your end step, if you control ten or more Gates, you win the game.

I must re-emphasise that this is not completely confirmed. While we feel that this source is essentially reliable, there is always plenty of room for error.

..suna ok-ish, dar prea lent pentru standard sau modern. cu toate ca, poate apare un deck care supravietuieste pana are 9 gate-uri si landul asta in joc wink

TurboFog akin?

Fog you, search for a gate, my turn.

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TudorGrigoroaia wrote:

TurboFog akin?

Fog you, search for a gate, my turn.

..sure sure, ceva de genul. dar sa nu uitam ca TFog dupa 10 runde castiga, iar 10 landuri (dintre care multe intra tapate) in joc dureaza mai mult.. are nevoie de muuuuulte fog-uri, snapcasteri si inca niste fog-uri wink

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m0nstersnatch wrote:
TudorGrigoroaia wrote:

TurboFog akin?

Fog you, search for a gate, my turn.

..sure sure, ceva de genul. dar sa nu uitam ca TFog dupa 10 runde castiga, iar 10 landuri (dintre care multe intra tapate) in joc dureaza mai mult.. are nevoie de muuuuulte fog-uri, snapcasteri si inca niste fog-uri wink

Pai sa vedem ce fog effects mai baga in DGM si M14. Oricum, pare genul nostru de deck. Slow and fun.

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De baga ceva gen time warp in standard, la ce planeswalkeri is eu zic ca-i doable. U/G ramp/control, suna fun.

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Trickster wrote:

De baga ceva gen time warp in standard, la ce planeswalkeri is eu zic ca-i doable. U/G ramp/control, suna fun.

ar fi deja temporal mastery desi e cam scump. daca baga un card draw selectiv care pune carti back on top of library ar fi mai doable. Ca sa nu para OP in format cu atatea miracole ar trebui sa coste 4-5 mana efectul si sa fie ceva de genul:
2UU -  draw 3 cards then put one from your hand on top of your library.

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TudorGrigoroaia wrote:
Trickster wrote:

De baga ceva gen time warp in standard, la ce planeswalkeri is eu zic ca-i doable. U/G ramp/control, suna fun.

ar fi deja temporal mastery desi e cam scump. daca baga un card draw selectiv care pune carti back on top of library ar fi mai doable. Ca sa nu para OP in format cu atatea miracole ar trebui sa coste 4-5 mana efectul si sa fie ceva de genul:
2UU -  draw 3 cards then put one from your hand on top of your library.


pai este deja Dimir Charm

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TehAuthor wrote:
TudorGrigoroaia wrote:
Trickster wrote:

De baga ceva gen time warp in standard, la ce planeswalkeri is eu zic ca-i doable. U/G ramp/control, suna fun.

ar fi deja temporal mastery desi e cam scump. daca baga un card draw selectiv care pune carti back on top of library ar fi mai doable. Ca sa nu para OP in format cu atatea miracole ar trebui sa coste 4-5 mana efectul si sa fie ceva de genul:
2UU -  draw 3 cards then put one from your hand on top of your library.


pai este deja Dimir Charm

true that, insa un turbo fog are mare nevoie de card draw. that thing ain't card draw.

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TudorGrigoroaia wrote:

2UU -  draw 3 cards then put one from your hand on top of your library.

Sounds like Jace's Grandpa is in town...

NEEDS MOAR JACE...
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Eu zic ca ii foarte greu sa infunzi masa cu fog-uri in meta-ul asta... mai degraba sa profiti de tona imensa de mass removal si sa-l amesteci cu ramp, dar si asa cred ca zici un gg rapid contra un control. Singurul mod cu adevarat viabil de a juca land-ul ala ii ca si alternate wincon, dar sincer, habar n-am ce deck isi permite sa-si strice manabase-ul asa de mult pentru un alternate wincon. Da' noh, nu stim ce carti mai apar.

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Chestie random ce am observat'o in spoilerul de pe mtgsalv: "~ enters the battlefield tapped.
{T}: Add 1 to your mana pool.
3, {T}, Return ~ to your hand: Search your library for a Gate card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library. If you control ten or more Gates with different names, you win the game."
Nu e extrem de prost daca intra tapat si trebuie sa'l returnezi in mana sa cauti un land?

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Silviu wrote:

Chestie random ce am observat'o in spoilerul de pe mtgsalv: "~ enters the battlefield tapped.
{T}: Add 1 to your mana pool.
3, {T}, Return ~ to your hand: Search your library for a Gate card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library. If you control ten or more Gates with different names, you win the game."
Nu e extrem de prost daca intra tapat si trebuie sa'l returnezi in mana sa cauti un land?

+ Ca eu chiar nu vad cum poate sa fie justificat miticarea unei astfel de carti. In limited e imposibil sa-ti iasa toate guildgaturile, si in constructed aproape nimeni nu joaca guildgateuri, si si daca s-ar face un deck, nu ar fi deloc competitiv cu cel putin juma de landuri intrand tapat.

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Well oricum ii o carte de fun smile
Dar da, pare foarte gimmicky si numai pentru ca te face sa joci gate-uri, unele dintre cele mai proaste land-uri printate, dar sa nu uitam ca tot ii un wincon doar din land-uri. Probabil o sa scoata totusi si ceva ce zice ca gate-urile intra netapate (nu ca asta o sa faca cartea mai buna).

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Am citit un articol mai demult Why bad cards are printed?. Pornind de acolo, poate landul asta e o carte proasta facuta intentionat de wizards. De ce trebuia sa fie mitica? Asta ramane de vazut.

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Apropo, ce zicea in articolul ala? "Cause it's still like printing money"? hmm

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http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/a … /daily/mr5

It's actually: When cards go bad smile

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fistyke wrote:

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/a … /daily/mr5

It's actually: When cards go bad smile

I knew it,  "R&D makes bad cards on purpose." !!!

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http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=140583&stc=1&d=1364077314

Creatura buna de limited, slabe sanse de a fi jucata in constructed..

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Nu-i chiar așa, cu o metodă si mediocra de a trisa cartea asta in joc poti bloca unele deck-uri. Mai ales ca is destule moduri de a o proteja. Poate cine ztie o sa apară in ceva sideboard.

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Trickster wrote:

Nu-i chiar așa, cu o metodă si mediocra de a trisa cartea asta in joc poti bloca unele deck-uri. Mai ales ca is destule moduri de a o proteja. Poate cine ztie o sa apară in ceva sideboard.

OK, de acord ca exista un fel de mod alternativ de a "juca" o carte (`sneak it into play`) insa metoda evidenta este sa platesti 4RG pentru Ruric Thar - iar asta nu se va intampla prea curand in constructed.. Pentru a deveni jucabila cartea, trebuie sa existe inca o piesa de puzzle care sa ii dea haste si trample, sau asa asemanator..

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Never mind, is prost eu, amu numa am văzut ca zice player... mda, limited fodder.

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Au aparut artwork-uri din DGM la PAX East 2013. De notat: Ral Zerek isi face aparitia si o sa avem un ciclu de creaturi legendare pentru fiecare ghilda (pe panou aparand cu titlul de "Implicit Maze Champion"). Probabil Ruric Thar, the Unbowed este campionul de la Gruul.

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..o gramada de artwork nou: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=498732

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Tristete: http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/arcana/1197_prm_mazes_end.jpg

Chiar au facuto promo cartea asta de 2 bani.

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benczi wrote:

Chiar au facuto promo cartea asta de 2 bani.

..intr-adevar nu are momentan nici o sansa in nici un format. presupun insa ca vor printa ceva care sa ajute la planul asta: Reap and Sow, Sylvan Scrying, etc.

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I like it... all land wincon, sigur isi gaseste locul in ceva combo. Heh, poate le pasa mai mult de modern de-amu? Would be funny...