Imported MH2 today with the tokens.

Sadly still don't have a good solution for the etched foils. I really don't want to have to go with a user-settable flag, it would imply a lot of internal changes for pricing calculations and display etc etc... but also it would be awkward now to have a second edition as well. For the 40 timeshifted MH1 reprints, they are already in a separate "Modern Horizons 1 Timeshifts" so I would have to add another edition "MH1 timeshifts ETCHED" or add another 40 printings in the MH1 timeshifts one. Ehhhh i'm really unsure, I don't like any of the solutions :(

Thank you so much!

Well thanks for putting MH2 in already - cards have been sat on my desk waiting! Best of luck solving the etched issue, the additional checkbox seems the only logical solution to me, in line with how foils are handled already.

Thank you for the add.

As for the etched foils, I know they don't really have a clean solution in the way you might like. But the extra user defined value makes the most sense, we would have the foil symbol and the etched foil symbol, whatever that may be, perhaps a shiney 'E' As for the changes in price, that is accurate anyways, TCG is selling them at different prices than normal foil or non foil

Sebi, I can't thank you enough, seriously. thank you

Hey Sebi, just wanted to send some thanks and love. I know all these new printing styles must be a real headache for ya. Good luck!

I don’t envy dealing with the million printings of each rare card these days, to be sure.

Curious though how entering The List stuff works? As I understand it new cards are added each set; I opened an Aether Vial, for instance, which I don’t think was part of it before, and I don’t see an entry on the Aether Vial page.

Thanks for all you do.

Thanks sebi!

Thanks for the update!

One small issue: it looks like MH2 cards currently can't be entered as prerelease promos.

maddsurgeon wrote:I don’t envy dealing with the million printings of each rare card these days, to be sure.

Curious though how entering The List stuff works? As I understand it new cards are added each set; I opened an Aether Vial, for instance, which I don’t think was part of it before, and I don’t see an entry on the Aether Vial page.

Thanks for all you do.

The List is weird because it's all the same set, but it slowly changes over time. You probably need to manually update based on the changelog Wizards publishes with each set, which is https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/updating-list-modern-horizons-2-2021-06-04 for MH2

El_Panda_Rojo wrote:Thanks for the update!

One small issue: it looks like MH2 cards currently can't be entered as prerelease promos.

Prerelease promos get added separately. I imagine Sebi will get to them soon.

It's support like this that makes me a Premium subscriber. I don't actually need or use any of the benefits of the Premium subscription, but this site deserves my support!

Fabulous work! You're incredibly appreciated!

Thank you, Sebi!

[I'm also Team Flag][/I'm also Team Flag]

I would prefer a flag. When we are importing cards it is faster to click a flag than to go to the set list and type the extension for cards that have many extension

When filtering cards from a set to know if we have a copy. If we need to select multiple things for the same set it is also a problem because we might think we are missing a card and buy it again because we forgot to add the other name of the set.

Other databases like Gatherer are listing all those cards on the same set so it is more difficult to do software that work with it at the same time.

Thank you, Sebi! There are 8 (??) versions of some of these cards, this must have been a real pain.

Thank you so much Sebi You’re doing gods work

Thanks for the update!

Thank you so much for the update! You're the best :D

You're awesome! Thank you so much!

Thanks Sebi!
I hope an etched solution isn't too hard to figure out (though it does seem like there isn't a clean answer).

While in the card database list the image that pop for "grief" is the image for "grief tyrant" but if I click on grief to go see it , it is the good image

scramasax wrote:While in the card database list the image that pop for "grief" is the image for "grief tyrant" but if I click on grief to go see it , it is the good image

Should be fixed now, caching issue. Shift-refresh if you still see the old one.

The token with the same name as a card might be a lot of work for you to solve. Wizard said they did not made a black lotus token because they never name token the same name as a card but they broke their rules in the same set. :rolleyes:
It means that all properties of a card moved from the card name to the cards printing. So when we filter things to find cards legal in different format or by color the token will show up.

In the inventory it show on different line but the token has the properties of the card. So the timeless dragon token show with the wrong type, power and toughness and with a mana cost. One of the worst side is that if I search for type token with timeless dragon it show zero lines while there is two in my inventory. Another error is that if I search for common cards timeless dragon will show up because the token is common

the card database show as the same line. An option in filter might try to separate them.

In the card when we select the token printing right now it show the rule printing of the card

Could you just make a tag called "Etched", like the foils. I have put mine as altered art for now to keep track of the etched versions.

Please make a flag like the 'foil' flag. It would make little sense to put them in separate sets! We currently have the following cards as etched foils:

Full Sets:

• Strixhaven Mystical Archive
  Strixhaven Mystical Archive Japanese

Partly:

• Commander Legends: all legendary creatures
  Modern Horizons 2: Basic Lands
  Modern Horizons 2: regular new-to-modern reprints
  Modern Horizons 2: retro frame
  Modern Horizons 2: MH1 retro frame

Creating separate sets just for the etched foils would mean 2 more Mystical archives, a partly commander legends set, a MH2 etched set and a MH1 retro frame etched set.

And don't forget that you can mark cards from each set as foil, even if they are in the etched foil set.

sebi wrote:Imported MH2 today with the tokens.

Sadly still don't have a good solution for the etched foils. I really don't want to have to go with a user-settable flag, it would imply a lot of internal changes for pricing calculations and display etc etc... but also it would be awkward now to have a second edition as well. For the 40 timeshifted MH1 reprints, they are already in a separate "Modern Horizons 1 Timeshifts" so I would have to add another edition "MH1 timeshifts ETCHED" or add another 40 printings in the MH1 timeshifts one. Ehhhh i'm really unsure, I don't like any of the solutions :(

Most of the other sites are either going with another set or using a numbering system with an "e" at the end. Not sure if the latter is possible with the way you have the db setup. How did you handle the etched foils on the other sets?

The user settable flag has the problem of affecting a very large amount of code and pages, because it's basically a special case in pricing.

Just to illustrate a small part of the problem: because a printing could have a non-foil, a normal-foil and an etched-foil version of the same printing, everywhere on the website that now shows 2 prices (normal and foil), will have to show 3 now. This directly relates to the backend where now we will need to store 3 prices for each single printing to cover these 3 cases instead of just 2.

Then all places where pricing sum-type calculations are made (collection value, trades, 'intersection values' for trading opportunites, etc) now have to be double-checked and if necessary adjusted to check and account for the etched flag.

The matching in trading opportunities has to also be adjusted for that.

And so it goes... :)

I do ideally like this solution in principle as a user. But as the developer this will cause weeks of work and guaranteed future hidden bugs. The solution of separate printings (either with another edition, or with other collector numbers) gets rid of all these complications, since it's gonna be just another printing, that is foil (but with an "e" on the number, or as a note).

I think that it would be great if everything was just a separate printing. The user defined flags end up leading to inconsistency and sometime represent cards that don't exist, like non-foil prerelease cards, or non-foil version of cards that only existed in Commander decks as foil version. In my wantlist I end up entering both foil and non-foil versions of prelease cards that I'm looking for just so that I have a better shot at matching a card that might be entered in someone's tradelist. Anything that can be done to stop errors from getting introduced is the right way to go.

Understood, but would you still be able to mark cards of these new sets as foil? Or would they automatically gain the foil tag?

sebi wrote:The user settable flag has the problem of affecting a very large amount of code and pages, because it's basically a special case in pricing.

Just to illustrate a small part of the problem: because a printing could have a non-foil, a normal-foil and an etched-foil version of the same printing, everywhere on the website that now shows 2 prices (normal and foil), will have to show 3 now. This directly relates to the backend where now we will need to store 3 prices for each single printing to cover these 3 cases instead of just 2.

Then all places where pricing sum-type calculations are made (collection value, trades, 'intersection values' for trading opportunites, etc) now have to be double-checked and if necessary adjusted to check and account for the etched flag.

The matching in trading opportunities has to also be adjusted for that.

And so it goes... :)

I do ideally like this solution in principle as a user. But as the developer this will cause weeks of work and guaranteed future hidden bugs. The solution of separate printings (either with another edition, or with other collector numbers) gets rid of all these complications, since it's gonna be just another printing, that is foil (but with an "e" on the number, or as a note).