Have extras of these and will trade them for modern/legacy cards in my wishlist.

Bump

What if I was only interested in 3 Misty Rainforest?

Scratch that. Did I miss something? Why are prices suddenly insane!?

Profanity wrote:Scratch that. Did I miss something? Why are prices suddenly insane!?

SCG in the wee hours of Saturday morning bought out every copy of Misty Rainforests and Scalding Tarns on ALL the sites online. They then doubled their price and thats now where they sit thanks to SCG.....unethical if you ask me.

Avenged492 wrote:
SCG in the wee hours of Saturday morning bought out every copy of Misty Rainforests and Scalding Tarns on ALL the sites online. They then doubled their price and thats now where they sit thanks to SCG.....unethical if you ask me.

Ah I see. I blame Modern Masters

Avenged492 wrote:

Profanity wrote:Scratch that. Did I miss something? Why are prices suddenly insane!?

SCG in the wee hours of Saturday morning bought out every copy of Misty Rainforests and Scalding Tarns on ALL the sites online. They then doubled their price and thats now where they sit thanks to SCG.....unethical if you ask me.

So, is there a website that states this? I'd like to read about it, if at all possible.

I can confirm that at GP Philly the SCG buyers were also going around and buying up stacks of Tarns and Mistys from other dealers. At one point I saw the main SCG buyer with a stack of about 500 fetches.

Here's the logic: At SCGOpen legacy events, everyone always goes to the booth to buy Polluted Delta's and Flooded Strand, and SCG is always out of stock on them, so the customers settle for the 'next best thing' in blue fetch lands, which is Tarn/Rainforest.

So why not hike the price up?

EDIT, SORRY, FOR SO MANY, COMMAS

hanker307 wrote:I can confirm that at GP Philly the SCG buyers were also going around and buying up stacks of Tarns and Mistys from other dealers. At one point I saw the main SCG buyer with a stack of about 500 fetches.

Here's the logic: At SCGOpen legacy events, everyone always goes to the booth to buy Polluted Delta's and Flooded Strand, and SCG is always out of stock on them, so the customers settle for the 'next best thing' in blue fetch lands, which is Tarn/Rainforest.

So why not hike the price up?

EDIT, SORRY, FOR SO MANY, COMMAS

My suspicions are that they are preparing to announce Modern Opens in place of Legacy Opens. They then buy up all the fetches they can find and the charge a premium once they announce the open change. Its smart business wise but unethical. With Legacy only bringing in 91 players this past weekend I have a feeling we are not going to be seeing Legacy sticking around for long.

I thought that was a really small amount of legacy players. I was looking to get into the format and thought jeez, pretty good odds at T8. I'm waiting til next year but if Modern starts getting some major support I'd rather play that instead.

Wow, I'm so glad I just finished completing my playsets of Zendikar fetch lands right before this happened.

Avenged492 wrote:

hanker307 wrote:I can confirm that at GP Philly the SCG buyers were also going around and buying up stacks of Tarns and Mistys from other dealers. At one point I saw the main SCG buyer with a stack of about 500 fetches.

Here's the logic: At SCGOpen legacy events, everyone always goes to the booth to buy Polluted Delta's and Flooded Strand, and SCG is always out of stock on them, so the customers settle for the 'next best thing' in blue fetch lands, which is Tarn/Rainforest.

So why not hike the price up?

EDIT, SORRY, FOR SO MANY, COMMAS

My suspicions are that they are preparing to announce Modern Opens in place of Legacy Opens. They then buy up all the fetches they can find and the charge a premium once they announce the open change. Its smart business wise but unethical. With Legacy only bringing in 91 players this past weekend I have a feeling we are not going to be seeing Legacy sticking around for long.

It's regional with regards to Legacy turnout. You can't use New Orleans as a barometer, the New Orleans area doesn't have a burgeoning Legacy scene.

They will most probably have an event on Friday which will bleed into Saturday, an event which will bleed (Much like Standard does) into Sunday and then Legacy on Sunday.

Starcity is a business and as long as there is a need for a legacy event, they will be happy to take your money to host it.

Avenged492 wrote:

hanker307 wrote:I can confirm that at GP Philly the SCG buyers were also going around and buying up stacks of Tarns and Mistys from other dealers. At one point I saw the main SCG buyer with a stack of about 500 fetches.

Here's the logic: At SCGOpen legacy events, everyone always goes to the booth to buy Polluted Delta's and Flooded Strand, and SCG is always out of stock on them, so the customers settle for the 'next best thing' in blue fetch lands, which is Tarn/Rainforest.

So why not hike the price up?

EDIT, SORRY, FOR SO MANY, COMMAS

My suspicions are that they are preparing to announce Modern Opens in place of Legacy Opens. They then buy up all the fetches they can find and the charge a premium once they announce the open change. Its smart business wise but unethical. With Legacy only bringing in 91 players this past weekend I have a feeling we are not going to be seeing Legacy sticking around for long.

http://legitmtg.com/culture/medinas-notebook-magic-finance/

jonathan medina talks about it in his article here. many people are speculating that scg is planning to announce modern opens but tweets, and comments made in the comment section, by ben bleiweiss state scg has no intention of changing the format of their opens for the rest of 2012 or the whole of 2013. can they change their minds? sure but i don't expect them to.

if you want my opinion on the change then i'll say that this price point was bound to happen but i believe scg caused a huge spike over night and started a frenzy. why do i say the current price point was bound to happen? the zen fetches are legal and staples of modern, best mana fixing in the format. the zen fetches are legal and great cheap alternatives in legacy, e.g. you can run wooded foothills(a cheap onslaught fetch) and a blue touching zen fetches and still get every dual land in rug delver. scg couldn't just increase the price, which imo is warranted on something so useful, because the supply was always there to keep the price down. after buying up each stores inventory they now get to set the price benchmark. there's a graphic in the medina article that i believe is playing out. so things should level off after a while imo.

as for the new orleans open.. i was there and pretty disappointed in the turn out. to only get 230 something for standard and 90 something for legacy was pitiful and i was sad to see such a lousy showing. being located in the south region i knew we didn't have as strong of a community as some areas but i was hoping the city, it's geographic location(not unreasonable for the texas, atlanta, florida crews to just drive there), not to mention the relative high ev of scg opens would be a big enough draw to get a reasonable crowd. didn't happen. maybe we'll get another chance and i hope we make up for it if we do.


tl;dr i believe the current price of blue zen fetches was inevitable. scg has no immediate plans to move to modern. scgno was a disappointment as far as attendance but i hope we get another chance to "make it up" to scg.

You guys do understand there was a HUGE draw at GP Philly this same weekend, right? I mean you can't have close to 2,000 people attend an event without it affecting other major tournaments in other regions of the continent.

Zuul36 wrote:You guys do understand there was a HUGE draw at GP Philly this same weekend, right? I mean you can't have close to 2,000 people attend an event without it affecting other major tournaments in other regions of the continent.

i'm not saying the gp didn't affect the attendance of the open in new orleans but there have been other open events that were scheduled on american gp weekends that had a more impressive showing than new orleans.