madoli wrote:In deck view, when I sort by price, I see extra copies of a card displayed. For example, one basal thrull appears 4 times (I presume this is due to the alternate art in fallen empires). Swamp shows up 5 times, due to the 5 swamps in RTR. Anyone else have this bug?

Thanks for reporting. It's fixed now.

Love the update, fixed a lot, if not most, of the issues from the previous version...

Can we get address formatting back if possible? When you are confirming address it's formatted properly, and then when it shows the address for shipping it throws it all on to one line and can be confusing if you have a large address or special information in it.

marumari wrote:I'm having this problem, too. The address I confirm has all the carriage returns, but the address that gets posted to the screen has them all stripped out. Definitely a regression there.

Fixed now, thanks!

A tiny fixable bug:

When you view somebody's profile and you're looking at the list of tradeable cards, the tooltip for both star icons read "Total in your wishlist". In this case, the first should read "Total in your wishlist" and the second one should read "Total in ~'s wishlist". :)

cbwebber wrote: Can we get address formatting back if possible? When you are confirming address it's formatted properly, and then when it shows the address for shipping it throws it all on to one line and can be confusing if you have a large address or special information in it.

Should be fixed now.

sebi wrote:

madoli wrote:In deck view, when I sort by price, I see extra copies of a card displayed. For example, one basal thrull appears 4 times (I presume this is due to the alternate art in fallen empires). Swamp shows up 5 times, due to the 5 swamps in RTR. Anyone else have this bug?

Thanks for reporting. It's fixed now.

You are super-fast! Thanks!

marumari wrote:A brief bug, but one that was in release 1 as well: Séance has no price at all.

I believe this has to do with the spelling over at the TCGPlayer site vs. that listed here. One of the two doesn't use the accented 'e'. As such, the card does not map properly to the corresponding card at TCGPlayer (the source of the pricing information).

Ravandil wrote:Thanks for the great update, it looks much better, some things (like adding and editing cards) seem to be harder but maybe I'll have to get used to it. The only thing I want to ask (and somebody asked about it before) is: Is it possible to have the same cards in one row in inventory? If I have, let's say two copies of the same card but from different editions, they are listed separately making the list much longer. To be honest I don't really care about the editions but rather how many copies I have. Is it possible to switch views to make it in one row? Here's what I mean:

e.g. now I have
1 Detonate - 5th
1 Detonate - 4th
1 Detonate - Mirrodin

I'd prefer:
3 Detonate - 5th, 4th, Mirrodin

This is a tough one, because other players may care about seeing quantities per card. Using your example, what if you had a different quantity of 4th ed. Detonate? Per your preference, you'd see:

4 Detonate - 5th, 4th, Mirrodin

Others may want to know how many of each:

1 Detonate - 5th
2 Detonate - 4th
1 Detonate - Mirrodin

I think, long term, it would be great if the cards were in collapsible rows (or something similar):

Detonate (4)
+- 5th E. (1)
+- 4th Ed. (2)
+- Mirrodin (1)

Those who want the details get them, but those who don't can see the total quantity on a single line.

This is a tough one, because other players may care about seeing quantities per card. Using your example, what if you had a different quantity of 4th ed. Detonate? Per your preference, you'd see:

4 Detonate - 5th, 4th, Mirrodin

Others may want to know how many of each:

1 Detonate - 5th
2 Detonate - 4th
1 Detonate - Mirrodin

I think, long term, it would be great if the cards were in collapsible rows (or something similar):

Detonate (4)
+- 5th E. (1)
+- 4th Ed. (2)
+- Mirrodin (1)

Those who want the details get them, but those who don't can see the total quantity on a single line.

I agree 100% with HikingStick in that different users have different needs and tastes.

I personally like seeing how many of each edition I own. Going with collapsable rows is probably the best of both worlds.

sebi wrote:

cbwebber wrote: Can we get address formatting back if possible? When you are confirming address it's formatted properly, and then when it shows the address for shipping it throws it all on to one line and can be confusing if you have a large address or special information in it.

Should be fixed now.

Rock on, perfect now, thanks Sebi

Yes, thanks for fixing the address issue. Double kudos!

HikingStick wrote: This is a tough one, because other players may care about seeing quantities per card. Using your example, what if you had a different quantity of 4th ed. Detonate? Per your preference, you'd see:

4 Detonate - 5th, 4th, Mirrodin

Others may want to know how many of each:

1 Detonate - 5th
2 Detonate - 4th
1 Detonate - Mirrodin

I think, long term, it would be great if the cards were in collapsible rows (or something similar):

Detonate (4)
+- 5th E. (1)
+- 4th Ed. (2)
+- Mirrodin (1)

Those who want the details get them, but those who don't can see the total quantity on a single line.

+1 for this. How difficult would that be to implement though?

rfioren wrote:

atomicashes wrote:So I'm not sure whats happening here. When I search for Drogskol Captain and the page loads I can see I have 10 in my wishlist. If I select a user that has some to trade the page loads but drogskol captain isn't in the list of cards I need from them. I'm not exactly sure why.

Charlie

I posted a separate thread about this issue in the feedback forum. I too am not alway seeing all cards a person has on my wish list when viewing the trading opportunities section.

This is driving me nuts.

It's nearly impossible to set up trades with people when I am unable to see what they have thats on my wishlist. I love the new inventory with all its detail but it seems to be majorly hindering the ability to set up trades effectively.

atomicashes wrote:

rfioren wrote:

atomicashes wrote:So I'm not sure whats happening here. When I search for Drogskol Captain and the page loads I can see I have 10 in my wishlist. If I select a user that has some to trade the page loads but drogskol captain isn't in the list of cards I need from them. I'm not exactly sure why.

Charlie

I posted a separate thread about this issue in the feedback forum. I too am not alway seeing all cards a person has on my wish list when viewing the trading opportunities section.

This is driving me nuts.

It's nearly impossible to set up trades with people when I am unable to see what they have thats on my wishlist. I love the new inventory with all its detail but it seems to be majorly hindering the ability to set up trades effectively.

I thought I fixed this. Can you please give an example of user for which you don't see the Captain in the intersection?

sebi wrote:

atomicashes wrote:

rfioren wrote:
I posted a separate thread about this issue in the feedback forum. I too am not alway seeing all cards a person has on my wish list when viewing the trading opportunities section.

This is driving me nuts.

It's nearly impossible to set up trades with people when I am unable to see what they have thats on my wishlist. I love the new inventory with all its detail but it seems to be majorly hindering the ability to set up trades effectively.

I thought I fixed this. Can you please give an example of user for which you don't see the Captain in the intersection?

I can! Compare my profile to teK here:

http://deckbox.org/users/teK

I need no cards from his list, and he needs 15 from mine (that's the sum of the min values between his wants and my haves, which I think is how it is being calculated). But on my profile page, it says he has 1 I want and I have 17 he wants.

LootPinata wrote: I can! Compare my profile to teK here:

http://deckbox.org/users/teK

I need no cards from his list, and he needs 15 from mine (that's the sum of the min values between his wants and my haves, which I think is how it is being calculated). But on my profile page, it says he has 1 I want and I have 17 he wants.

This is a bit different than atomicashes' problem. In your case I think the trading opportunities on your profile page is not reporting things right. We won't fix this, we will completely remove it and rewrite it as a separate page.

In atomicashes case it seems he's reporting that the intersection he sees when visiting a users profile is wrong. Which we deployed some fixes for a couple of days ago, so I thought everything is fine.

sebi wrote:

atomicashes wrote:

rfioren wrote:
I posted a separate thread about this issue in the feedback forum. I too am not alway seeing all cards a person has on my wish list when viewing the trading opportunities section.

This is driving me nuts.

It's nearly impossible to set up trades with people when I am unable to see what they have thats on my wishlist. I love the new inventory with all its detail but it seems to be majorly hindering the ability to set up trades effectively.

I thought I fixed this. Can you please give an example of user for which you don't see the Captain in the intersection?

Sebi,
This user is a perfect example.
http://deckbox.org/users/Zooligan

I have a terminus on my wish list but it doesn't show up in the intersection.

Somewhat related to this issue is another suggestion, which I believe I posted elsewhere -- not sure if it's in this thread or another thread.

If a possible trade partner wants a specific version of a card, and I have an unspecified version of that card in my tradelist, I'd like that to appear in the trading opportunities section. As of right now, it doesn't appear. For someone like me with 10K+ unspecified-version cards, trading will be hard without seeing these /potential/ matches. This way, I could see "oh, this person only wants M10 lightning bolts.. let me go see if any of my bolts are from M10", instead of just never seeing the possible overlap. If the versions are different (e.g., all mine are 4th edition and his wishlist is all M10), then it makes sense not to show that overlap in trading opportunities.

HikingStick wrote:
I think, long term, it would be great if the cards were in collapsible rows (or something similar):

Detonate (4)
+- 5th E. (1)
+- 4th Ed. (2)
+- Mirrodin (1)

Those who want the details get them, but those who don't can see the total quantity on a single line.

Agreed, this would be perfect.

Hmmm... Foil prices seem the same as non-foils...

Love the updates that did get put in place, though.

Would like to see the ability to search or sort your decks...either by color, name, format, etc.

Moolet wrote:I noticed that a lot of the feedback was being posted in this thread, so though I already posted in the other one, I just thought I'd post it here too.

Just throwing my 2 cents in :)

Firstly, I love the update. Especially the fact that prices are now per edition instead of for the global card.

In saying that, though, is there any chance we can get the column which shows how many of a card is in use in our decks? It's how I would sort out discrepancies between my inventory count and tradelist count.

Thanks, again

+1 for seeing # of copies of a card currently in decks

ALSO, this is a bug, I believe: the "A" to denote "autographed" does not show along with the other icons once it has been assigned to a card (like foiled, English, etc.)



Thanks!!

Volcanic Island, Beta = $0.00 value.

okay, I'm a little bit confused about something else... :/

I'm in deck view. I click on my inventory count for a particular card and a few minor things come to mind:

- Pop up box blocks the card you've clicked on in the background. Thus, if you have a quantity of said card in inventory and wishlist it's impossible to see what car you are currently viewing. May seem silly, but inputting a couple thousand cards and you can forget real quick
- I'm not certain what the twisty arrows mean. I've figured out that if I have 18 quantity listed for a card and I click on the arrows it will create a new line item and remove 1 quantity from the line item I was just on. So i'd then have 1 and 17. However, maybe I'm missing something because this seems to cause me more issues that in helps.

For instance, if I have 18 Cabal Therapy, for example, and I'd like to parse those 18 into line item groups that each share a distinction (Maybe 9 of my Cabals are identical, but the remainder all have different attributes - condition, set, etc.) then I find myself doing subtraction problems each time I go in and attempt to drill down to my specific cards. I click the arrows once and I have 1 and 17. But actually I want 9, 2, 2, 2, 2, and 1 quantities, all on their own lines. I'm assuming you have to go and just manually chop up all those quantities. Just seems that there should be little + or - buttons to take from or add to the original quantity, or something.

After entering a few thousand cards over the past two days I'm honestly most frustrated by this issue. I have a couple hundred Birds of Paradise cards. Each time I go in and take "4" out of the 200 inventory list to denote that they are a specific set / condition / foil, I have to go in and change my new quantity from 1 to 4 and then subtract those 'extra' 3' from the original quantity (200, already subtracted one with the twisty arrows, so 199, now I have to tab back over and overwrite quantity to 196). Maybe this seems mundane but it adds up!!

Any suggestions would be welcome. And as always, thank you for your site!


EDIT Oh, and you cannot see the third digit if you have more than 99 quantity of a particular card.

Let me see if I may help with some of these...

jfadeX wrote:okay, I'm a little bit confused about something else... :/

I'm in deck view. I click on my inventory count for a particular card and a few minor things come to mind:

- Pop up box blocks the card you've clicked on in the background. Thus, if you have a quantity of said card in inventory and wishlist it's impossible to see what car you are currently viewing. May seem silly, but inputting a couple thousand cards and you can forget real quick

I agree this is an issue. I ran into this myself as I was working inventory and had to walk away for a moment. Solutions could be to change the location (itself a pain, if you end up mousing halfway across the screen), or to make sure the card name appears in the pop-up. Personally, I favor inserting the name in the details popup.

jfadeX wrote:- I'm not certain what the twisty arrows mean. I've figured out that if I have 18 quantity listed for a card and I click on the arrows it will create a new line item and remove 1 quantity from the line item I was just on. So i'd then have 1 and 17. However, maybe I'm missing something because this seems to cause me more issues that in helps.

For instance, if I have 18 Cabal Therapy, for example, and I'd like to parse those 18 into line item groups that each share a distinction (Maybe 9 of my Cabals are identical, but the remainder all have different attributes - condition, set, etc.) then I find myself doing subtraction problems each time I go in and attempt to drill down to my specific cards. I click the arrows once and I have 1 and 17. But actually I want 9, 2, 2, 2, 2, and 1 quantities, all on their own lines. I'm assuming you have to go and just manually chop up all those quantities. Just seems that there should be little + or - buttons to take from or add to the original quantity, or something.

I follow your logic. The split arrow button splits your inventory across multiple lines. If adding details to a set that is already in inventory, it makes some sense: split one off and add details for that one (or quantity), split another off and do the same. If you work from what you have least of to what you have most of, and you only have one of each distinct row, you just keep going until you are left with the final grouping. If putting in other quantities, however, you have to adjust both lines (the original and the new one).

Since that interface is not intended for adding new inventory (though sometimes it is most convenient, as when I was confirming inventory counts last night), I'm not sure if it needs fixing (to split to a zero value) or if it should stay the same. In the Import Cards interface, you have the option of adjusting details as you enter the cards, but I'll let you decide if that interface works for you.

jfadeX wrote:After entering a few thousand cards over the past two days I'm honestly most frustrated by this issue. I have a couple hundred Birds of Paradise cards. Each time I go in and take "4" out of the 200 inventory list to denote that they are a specific set / condition / foil, I have to go in and change my new quantity from 1 to 4 and then subtract those 'extra' 3' from the original quantity (200, already subtracted one with the twisty arrows, so 199, now I have to tab back over and overwrite quantity to 196). Maybe this seems mundane but it adds up!!

I don't know when you started adding inventory relative to the update. As mentioned above, the system is designed to let you add details as you entered the inventory. If you entered your Birds of Paradise as a generic quantity of 200, your current process is the only way to do it (though changes may be forthcoming--not sure what Sebi has in store for us). The current system for details is (in many ways) far better than what we had before the 2.0 update (at least, imo).

jfadeX wrote:Oh, and you cannot see the third digit if you have more than 99 quantity of a particular card.

I believe that's a valid point. I don't know how many people collect more than 99 of a given card, but it should not be too tough to widen the field. I just have to wonder how many people are affected by the two-digit count, and then wonder if someone else might come along and ask Sebi to allow four digits (thousands).

In any case, I know your honest feedback is appreciated by Sebi and Laura. They review all this feedback. [They are on holiday right now, and will be picking up the torch again soon.]

While I understand your frustrations (I've experienced everything you have with my inventory of 10k+ cards), I still find this site to be the best out there for managing my inventory.[/They are on holiday right now, and will be picking up the torch again soon.]

jfadeX wrote:Hmmm... Foil prices seem the same as non-foils...

As much as I want the foil prices to be accurate, I believe this is more an issue with TCGPlayer's API. If you click the link (price) and actually view the cards on their site, they don't distinguish between prices for foil and non-foil. You actually have to scan the list for a foil version which, of course, is a higher price and likely affects the "average" and "high" prices of the card in question. Pretty stupid if you ask me, but a lot of people use TCGPlayer for their pricing and, as far as I know, they're the only ones with an API.

Ravandil wrote:

HikingStick wrote:
I think, long term, it would be great if the cards were in collapsible rows (or something similar):

Detonate (4)
+- 5th E. (1)
+- 4th Ed. (2)
+- Mirrodin (1)

Those who want the details get them, but those who don't can see the total quantity on a single line.

Agreed, this would be perfect.

I would like to toss my two cents in for the collapsible rows. I love being able to see different versions on their own rows, but most of the time I want a total count. Also, as it stands now, only the row showing the total would need to have the deck count in it, because having the deck count for all of that card show up on each row is confusing. Alternatively, maybe we could have the option of specifying which cards are in which decks. I know this would help me out, especially with tracking foils. As an added bonus, it could help improve the accuracy of the "deck value," especially if the issue with foil prices can be resolved.

Once more, I saw another post I'd like to add commentary to. :D

rfioren wrote: I would love to see cards of mismatched versions, or at least of unspecified versions, appear in the trading opportunities window. For example - I haven't specified the version of Ponder that I have. My partner has specified only Lorwyn version. It turns out that I have some from Lorwyn -- I'd at least like to see that we have a possible match. I have over 12K cards on here, and I can't possibly go back and enter the version on all of them, but in many cases possible trading matches aren't showing up.

I'm not sure how I feel about this particular suggestion, but I would love for the opposite to be true. I have a lot of cards in my wishlist with unspecified editions because I just need the card. I don't know if this affects my trading opportunities or not, but I would prefer that it didn't

rfioren wrote: Lastly -- the default pricing -- I think it makes more sense to leave the default pricing of an unspecified card as the LOWEST priced version, as opposed to the most recent version -- it will provide an incentive for people to specify their versions, since adding the version can only increase your price/value.

I'm pretty sure the most recent version typically is the lowest priced version, since they're usually still being opened in packs. Check the prices on shocklands for a good example of this.

HikingStick wrote:
While I understand your frustrations (I've experienced everything you have with my inventory of 10k+ cards), I still find this site to be the best out there for managing my inventory.

Thanks for the reply. At least I know I wasn't missing some interface options, judging by your reply.
And I agree 100% about the management tool that this site offers compared to others - I love deckbox.org so I hope I did not come across as a detractor.


And yeah, I had previously entered in generic (yet accurate) card counts previous to the update and was just going back through the collection to specificy all the details per card - and doing so in that order is, unfortunately, ponderous - if I were to START entering cards with the new entry method of course it'd be much simpler.

HikingStick wrote:

jfadeX wrote:Oh, and you cannot see the third digit if you have more than 99 quantity of a particular card.

I believe that's a valid point. I don't know how many people collect more than 99 of a given card, but it should not be too tough to widen the field. I just have to wonder how many people are affected by the two-digit count, and then wonder if someone else might come along and ask Sebi to allow four digits (thousands).

Indeed, I own an expansive collection and mitigating differences amongst 200+ BoPs can be time-taxing. Perhaps you have a better solution for me, because where this "quantity" visibility issues comes into play the most for me is with basic lands.

1. I entered in over 100 decks that I own a couple years ago, and added all basic lands to inventory while doing so
2. Many of the lands are foiled, signed, etc., and thus would be important to denote
3. After the update I have been going through my physical deck lists in the site, clicking on the INVENTORY count within the deck and modifying the land (and other cards) from the pop up. This is where I can't see my full quantity (i.e., 600 forest) and I have to do squirrely math and arrow keys to correctly ferret out that I just "removed" 12 basic forest and replaced them with 6 unhinged forest and 6 foil forest, for example. It's tedious.

Based on what you said, above, it shouldn't be too difficult to expand the pop up, add a card name header, and expand the entry boxes.


Something else I was wondering - you cannot flag a specific card FOR a specific deck, correct? If I have two decks with a Darksteel Colossus each, I can't currently flag which deck has the "foil" Colossus in it? Just making sure.

Thanks again!

StubbyG wrote:

jfadeX wrote:Hmmm... Foil prices seem the same as non-foils...

As much as I want the foil prices to be accurate, I believe this is more an issue with TCGPlayer's API. If you click the link (price) and actually view the cards on their site, they don't distinguish between prices for foil and non-foil. You actually have to scan the list for a foil version which, of course, is a higher price and likely affects the "average" and "high" prices of the card in question. Pretty stupid if you ask me, but a lot of people use TCGPlayer for their pricing and, as far as I know, they're the only ones with an API.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh...I suppose this makes sense.

What do you think about an inherent, or flat, multiplier added to the base value of a card if it's marked Foil? Go on the low-side and just use Base Value * 110% or something?

jfadeX wrote:What do you think about an inherent, or flat, multiplier added to the base value of a card if it's marked Foil? Go on the low-side and just use Base Value * 110% or something?

Unfortunately, I think such an equation breaks down on the two ends of the value scale. Most penny cards are worth between 25 and 50 cents in foil. On the high end (e.g., some planeswalkers), the foil values are much higher than the standard versions (e.e., Lilian of the Veil at $25 and the foil at $60).