Tromokratis promo 0.00$ ...

Do you guys know of a reliable, comprehensive source of information where we could see which cards have both a foil & normal printing in a certain edition. (or just foil, or just normal)?

My question is about the promo sets mostly. Out of the other ones, I think only the From The Vault, Premium Deck Series and Commander's Arsenal are foil-only. Right?

Venser, the Sojourner from Duel Decks Venser vs. Koth having different pricing information for foil and non-foil (when it only comes in foil).

Venser, the Sojourner (non-foil): $7.36
Venser, the Sojourner (foil): $4.73

mattmcc wrote:Collector's edition cards are off- black lotus is @$18 where most i have seen is around $250-300. It may be off with the rest of the set too, just have not checked yet.

Fixed Black Lotus pricing.

sebi wrote:My question is about the promo sets mostly. Out of the other ones, I think only the From The Vault, Premium Deck Series and Commander's Arsenal are foil-only. Right?

I think all of the promo sets you just added as well as all of the dual decks and ftvs have the property that for each card there is only a foil or non-foil version...sometimes it may be different for different cards, like deckmasters and dual decks have a couple of cards foil and most non-foil, but all of the cards in those sets have one version. Similarly for game day cards, some are foil some are non foil, but there is only 1 version for each card name.

Another way to look at it is that the only sets that have both non-foil and foil versions of a given card are core and expert set releases post 7th edition as well as modern masters

bactgudz wrote:

sebi wrote:My question is about the promo sets mostly. Out of the other ones, I think only the From The Vault, Premium Deck Series and Commander's Arsenal are foil-only. Right?

I think all of the promo sets you just added as well as all of the dual decks and ftvs have the property that for each card there is only a foil or non-foil version...sometimes it may be different for different cards, like deckmasters and dual decks have a couple of cards foil and most non-foil, but all of the cards in those sets have one version. Similarly for game day cards, some are foil some are non foil, but there is only 1 version for each card name.

Another way to look at it is that the only sets that have both non-foil and foil versions of a given card are core and expert set releases post 7th edition as well as modern masters

Sebi knows that some cards were printed only in foil and some were printed only non-foil. He was asking if anyone knew of an online database somewhere that he could just pull that information from to make it a bit faster, rather than setting the properties of each printing individually.

Kammikaze wrote:

bactgudz wrote:

sebi wrote:My question is about the promo sets mostly. Out of the other ones, I think only the From The Vault, Premium Deck Series and Commander's Arsenal are foil-only. Right?

I think all of the promo sets you just added as well as all of the dual decks and ftvs have the property that for each card there is only a foil or non-foil version...sometimes it may be different for different cards, like deckmasters and dual decks have a couple of cards foil and most non-foil, but all of the cards in those sets have one version. Similarly for game day cards, some are foil some are non foil, but there is only 1 version for each card name.

Another way to look at it is that the only sets that have both non-foil and foil versions of a given card are core and expert set releases post 7th edition as well as modern masters

Sebi knows that some cards were printed only in foil and some were printed only non-foil. He was asking if anyone knew of an online database somewhere that he could just pull that information from to make it a bit faster, rather than setting the properties of each printing individually.

I thought he was asking so he cold make the pricing info consistent and correct. If so, then my answer should be sufficient...segregate the price data you have for foil and non-foil for expert and core sets post 7th+modern masters; and aggregate the data for all other editions, showing that price whether or not the foil tag is selected.

The key is, there is only ONE price for all those other editions, it doesn't matter that it's foil or non foil, that price should be used regardless of what the user tags it as since it is the only one that exists.

Nothing you said was incorrect. Aggregating non-foil and foil for printings that only have one of those is a perfectly viable solution and it's very possible that's what sebi will end up doing. It sounded to me like he was looking for quick and easy way to remove the nonexistent printing leaving only the correct one.

Not 100% as easy as that. We have cards that have a market price for both a foil and a non foil price although they have only a foil printing (see the reported Venser from the duel decks).

This might happen because of our import sources (a while back tcgplayer, now amazon), or our own sellers who set a price on a card marked as foil, although that edition did not have a foil printing.

But the info you gave is still valuable! Just can't apply it that easily :)

Actually I'm wrong. Tired... not all pistons firing properly :)

Another way to look at it is that the only sets that have both non-foil and foil versions of a given card are core and expert set releases post 7th edition as well as modern masters

And for these core and expert set releases post 7th edition, any card can be either foil or non-foil?

sebi wrote:
And for these core and expert set releases post 7th edition, any card can be either foil or non-foil?

Correct. All core and expert sets starting with 7th/Urza's Legacy have both regular and foil printings. All core and expert sets pre-7th/Urza's Legacy will be only regular.

some cards are displaying the same price regardless of condition, some have wrong prices, eg

NM Tundra - $175, LP Tundra $219
NM/LP Wasteland both $108.9
NM Verdant Catacombs $50.43, LP Catacombs $50.68

I'm not sure what the price should be exactly but Celestial Flare (foil) is showing at $14.09

Looking around the Internet, I have found

Amazon: $14.09
StarCityGames: $1.99
TrollAndToad: $2.69
ABUGames: $4.49
eBay (lowest): $3.49 (buy it now)

Thanks for the number of updates Deckbox has done. :)

teK wrote:some cards are displaying the same price regardless of condition, some have wrong prices, eg

NM Tundra - $175, LP Tundra $219
NM/LP Wasteland both $108.9
NM Verdant Catacombs $50.43, LP Catacombs $50.68

We do not calculate separate prices for different conditions yet. Where did you see the difference for Catacombs?

Fixed many issues with promo edition foils. Many of them do not show as 0.00 anymore.

Thank you bactgudz for the tip!

Most of the price issues in my collection have been resolved with the recent inclusion of promo prices. However, the following cards still show as $0.00:

Breath of Malfegor

Copy Artifact (Beta)

Corrupt

Duress

High Tide

Ogre Arsonist

Turnabout

I should probably also point out there is no option to select the recent Vindicate Judge Foil (with Sorin). Aside from these small issues I love the site and am looking to get more of my collection entered in.

Thanks.

I'm almost entirely certain that foil Ravnica Golgari Grave-Troll is worth more than zero dollars, but I could be wrong.

6th edition swamp is showing as $4.95 for me; i assume that's not right.

The pricing on zendikar full art lands is incorrect. Deckbox has them at < 50 cents each. I don't see them anywhere for less than $1.50, $2 in most cases.

brewfox wrote:The pricing on zendikar full art lands is incorrect. Deckbox has them at < 50 cents each. I don't see them anywhere for less than $1.50, $2 in most cases.

Every LGS in this area (Minneapolis, MN) has them for $1.00.

brewfox wrote:The pricing on zendikar full art lands is incorrect. Deckbox has them at < 50 cents each. I don't see them anywhere for less than $1.50, $2 in most cases.

3 most recent sold ebay listings:
18 for about $15 - 83c per
209 for $190 - 91c per
15 for $14.50 - 97c per

Definitely not $1.50-2, but definitely also not 59c.

brewfox wrote:The pricing on zendikar full art lands is incorrect. Deckbox has them at < 50 cents each. I don't see them anywhere for less than $1.50, $2 in most cases.

Also you can buy them right here on deckbox for 0.80$ if you wish, there are a few offers :D

More seriously, the prices were about 50c yesterday, and that was a mistake on our end. The current ones are closer to 1$.

Fixed a lot of more missing prices for special promo editions, especially the special 4th edition printings, Collectors Edition, International Collector's Edition and a few other miscellaneous ones.

sebi wrote:

brewfox wrote:The pricing on zendikar full art lands is incorrect. Deckbox has them at < 50 cents each. I don't see them anywhere for less than $1.50, $2 in most cases.

Also you can buy them right here on deckbox for 0.80$ if you wish, there are a few offers :D

More seriously, the prices were about 50c yesterday, and that was a mistake on our end. The current ones are closer to 1$.

I bought three full art mountains at the beginning of the month (April 4th) from a user on deckbox for $0.54 each. Was a little more than that once you factor in shipping, but if you can still find these under $1 if you're looking around.

Chromatic Lantern foil showing as $68.14. I think it's closer to $15 right now. http://deckbox.org/mtg/Chromatic%20Lantern?gid=290542

CclassicL wrote:Chromatic Lantern foil showing as $68.14. I think it's closer to $15 right now. http://deckbox.org/mtg/Chromatic%20Lantern?gid=290542

I actually just discussed this with someone a little while ago, SCG is sold out at 15, ebay is about 15, Amazon/Marketplace has them at 68 and TCG mid is 175 because theres only like 5 copies.

bighappyblocker wrote:

CclassicL wrote:Chromatic Lantern foil showing as $68.14. I think it's closer to $15 right now. http://deckbox.org/mtg/Chromatic%20Lantern?gid=290542

I actually just discussed this with someone a little while ago, SCG is sold out at 15, ebay is about 15, Amazon/Marketplace has them at 68 and TCG mid is 175 because theres only like 5 copies.

The price is now over 157 which is ridiculous. That is incorrect as you can buy them from both professional and private sellers at cardmarket for a few euro +p&p.

I'm not sure if you plan on implementing separate foreign card prices, but foreign black border cards are often worth much more than their English white-border counterparts. I'm thinking dual lands, city of brass, etc.

On the zendikar full art land pricing that was quoted above, of course they get cheaper when you buy 10-20+ of them.

brewfox wrote:I'm not sure if you plan on implementing separate foreign card prices, but foreign black border cards are often worth much more than their English white-border counterparts. I'm thinking dual lands, city of brass, etc.

On the zendikar full art land pricing that was quoted above, of course they get cheaper when you buy 10-20+ of them.

Everything gets cheaper when you buy in bulk, why would that mean the prices don't count? Do people really buy full art zen lands individually anyway?
http://store.tcgplayer.com/magic/product/show?ProductName=full%20art
Range looks like $0.93 - 1.89 to me with only 2 above the $1.50 mark.