sebi wrote:

Not yet, but it's in 2.0! So at some point in the next 2 weeks smile

This made my Christmas...

Feel free to take a look at my stuff and see if there is anything that interests you as well

What do you value your foil Dreadbore at?

First off, all other trading sites fail in comparison to what you can do and accomplish in trading. I go to other sites and each time I just say to myself "wheres the lists that compare what we both want?" I mean aside from the larger community (only because deckbox hasnt been around as long) I personally see no reason to try any where else to trade.

With that said, something that would be nice which I know helps me when Im looking for a card on my wishlist, is to hover over the little person icon that tells when a person was last online or is currently online. However it only gives the day and month they were last online, it doesnt give the year. So its hard to tell exactly how long someone has been inactive. I see it all the time (espically in new users "current trades") where they offer trades to people that havent been online in 6-8 months. Or if todays date is 12/4 for example, and a user was online 11/29 of LAST year, you might think that they were online last week when its been over a year and week. Im sure if anything this a just a small fix that can be done, its just 1 one that I though about when reading the new trading policies...

Keep up the AMAZING WORK!

Love the new look as well. Really looking forward to that.

"If its too good to be true, it probably is" Pretty much the punchline of magic...

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I could be interested. What do you value the Command Tower at?

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outofstep wrote:

To me, this is a bit worrisome due to the following... Upon looking at Ichorclaw's profile there is absolutely NOTHING that jumps out at me as any sort of indicator of bad or even "iffy" trading history. All I see is "Feedback:+37 out of 38 completed mail trades" and the fact that he changed his status to read, "Family issues, no longer trading." I think this really illustrates that fact that we need to migrate towards a more detailed feedback system, one that's not just a simple top-level +/-1.

There should be ratings for how prompt someone is at sending out their cards, with a 5-star being the same/next day and a 1-star being a week later or... never.
There should be ratings for packaging, with a 5-star being in top-loaders in a bubble mailer and a 1-star being in a zip lock bag inside a regular envelop.
There should be ratings for communication, with 5-stars as all pertinent info provided and questions answered and 1-star being that you agreed on a trade then didn't hear from the guy again for 2-weeks.

These are the things I want to know when potentially trading with someone.

That sounds alot like the ebay rating system roll.

It could work if if the rating used was the avg score of the ratings was used...

Ok well I was close. I havent seen that list before.

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sebi wrote:
Helios52 wrote:

Sebi - is there anything that can be done about the 0 in feedback? I mean its not the end of the world if it has to remain as such but it kinda of sucks that I have this 1 bad reputation point for doing nothing wrong in trying to get the trade completed...

Yep, we've changed it to +1.

Thank you very much! I really appreciate it smile

I wondered the same thing. I figured some kind of Reanimator build used it since I have yet to find a list that did...

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Sebi - is there anything that can be done about the 0 in feedback? I mean its not the end of the world if it has to remain as such but it kinda of sucks that I have this 1 bad reputation point for doing nothing wrong in trying to get the trade completed...

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Sorry to necro the thread, But I thought Id give an update on the situation. I ended up having to settle for an RTR overgrown Tomb in compensation because the person traded away the Scalding Tarn and Verdant Catacombs I traded him so he couldnt even send them back. He basically gave me the ultimatum of take the 15 or get nothing because "I dont really use deckbox anymore" so I dont care what punishment I recieve attitude. He left a 0 feedback for me when I left a him a 0 as well. So I basically got screwed twice on 1 trade.

Anyways thanks to all that voiced their thoughts and opinions on what should be done. I hope this event enlightens everyone to what the proper etiquette is when resolving issues with mailed trades...

I could be interested. What do you value it at?

Some one get this man a beer! Couldnt agree more. Well played sir...

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sebi wrote:

Bumping this to say we've read the discussion intently.

It is very true the deckbox official rules are a bit lax, and unclear on this specific situation, and we are updating them in the near future, along with various other changes which we will describe and discuss in an upcoming post in the announcements forum.

On topic, we tend to agree with Thrun's point of view. As far as we know, other reputable trading platforms use this rule as well (e.g. http://www.magictraders.com/policies/sending).

Although I can understand why for some people it sounds a bit harsh, and the 50/50 option sounds friendly and fair, there is one important distinction that makes this option the right one:
 
As a sender, you have the option of insuring your shipment, and requesting signed confirmation. So if you want to make sure you don't lose money, you can. It is unfair to make the receiver lose money / value when he has no choice about it.

Thank you very much for the for the clarification and "official" final word

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Just so I understand correctly, the general consensus is that the policy is that the sender is responsible even for the lost mail of the trade even if DC and tracking was used?

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Sorry for not being that responsive to suggestions, its been a fairly busy weekend for me.

nowa90 wrote:

PS: What is the the reputation of the other party?

His reputation was 9/9 out trades completed in the last 2 months prior to ours and he had posted a topic on this group that I responded to. Seeing as he was somewhat new, is why I asked to use DC and tracking in the first place. Ive also been in contact with a previous trader that Ive done business who had a similiar issue with cards not being delivered effectively so this could be a some kinda of scam. Although faking tracking would be a very clever trick. 

Honestly, getting cash for the cards would be the final option I would go with below, getting the cards back or getting trade value in return. If I wanted cash for them, I would have just sold them on ebay. Alot faster and safer. Its more the principle. No one ever said that trading via mail was 100% fault proof and I understand that but I have always understood that if I want to keep a good reputation as a safe and friendly trader, I would take my losses where I have to and make sure the other person is satisfied with the deal when completed. Again Im not blaming him for the loss of the cards because he did provide proof they were sent, but that still shouldnt change the fact that Ive never recieved them and he recieved mine 4 days after I sent and its been 2 months since he sent. IF they ever do show, I have no problem either giving back the cash credited to me or the value in compensation.

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@awful_person - thank you. That's what I was looking for more or less smile

@iamsolipsim - my thoughts exactly. I guess I was just assuming that that was how lost mail trades were handled.

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I appreciate the reponses.

I haven't physically been to the post office but I've called and spoken to both post offices in my area as well as the USPS customer service and it hasn't turned up. The tracking only shows that it left CA and they have no idea where went from there.

To be clear i wasnt asking for the current value of the fetches (which would be around 45) just the original 30. I was just under the assumption that even if the mail was lost I would still send value equal the original trade espically if I recieved theirs and they didn't receive mine. I just didn't think it was fair that I would be taking that big a loss when I never recieved anything at all and would be basically taking half of what I traded for. I understand taking some loss but I don't see why I should take more of the loss.

This is really the first time I've had this kind of problem which is why I asked for suggestions. Im not trying to be a pain in the ass with what I think I deserve in compensation. I just want a better understanding as to why 15 would be fair. If people agree that 15 is fair than the majority wins and ill gladly accept that. I am great full he's willing to send anything but just appreciate some clarification

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So I've hit a recent snag in one of my trades and I'm looking for some input/suggestions and opinions regarding what can be done to get this trade done. (Im typing on my phone so I will fix the post with any extra info needed when I get a chance to)

So the trade was my scalding tarn and verdant catacombs for his ftv sol ring, cold eye selkie, micharo(white legend from COK I think) and a FNM Korsan grip. The trade was agreed on before the hike in scalding tarns price so given the premium the value of both sides was settled at 30. We both sent out same time and agreed to post tracking numbers which we both did. I live in NY and he lives in CA so I wasn't expecting it like next day or anything. He recieved both of my fetches within a week but I have yet to receive his at all. The tracking number shows that the package did leave CA but it never was recieved anywhere since and it's been over 2 months. We've called and filed a claim but bc it wasnt insured, there is nothing that USPS will do for lost mail. Their only advice was to wait and see.

So now we come to issue of sending compensation. His offer was to send me 15 in value which is basically half of what the original trade was for which doesn't seem fair so I now come to all you wise and all knowing traders (and mods) for what you think would be the right compensation. If by chance the sol ring and other cards come in I would gladly send them back. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to post your thoughts below so he and I can get this this figured out.

First off, B-E-A-UTIFUL work with getting this up and running! Ive enjoyed using it thus far. I can't wait for the next wave of updates because they sound like they will make this app even more awesome than it already is smile


Also great work on your Life Counter App. Ive been using that one for a while and its my go to App for all Magic related Fun!

Sadly, unless the tracked shipment is insured, the post office wont do anything beside tell you to wait longer. I have a current trade that should have gotten to be me a month ago and all the tracking says is that is left the processing center of the state it was sent from. Im still working with the guy to see if he will agree to send other compensation.

I took am interested in the foil thragtusk. Let me know if we can work something out

If all those cards are for trade, you should put them in your tradelist and the same goes for the cards you want in your wishlist. Then all someone has to do is go to your profile and it compares cards you have with what people what and vis versa. its easier to keep cards you have for trade more up to date than posting on thread all the time. Deckbox is different than other sites in this regard.

Also this a very active thread for trading - http://deckbox.org/forum/viewforum.php?id=30

Anyway Id be interested in the FTV Balance smile

Ingenious idea. Im not sure why I didnt think of this in the first place. Sign me up