Oh no, I realize it was a solid removal card. I suppose my point with Executioner's Swing was that, despite that it's primary use is going to be removal, there were other ways to word it. Most -X/-X cards don't have the caveat that the target has to have had dealt damage in the turn, making them useful to soften a blow as much as they can also be used for removal.

Thank you guys, though, for the clarification. Especially with the example of the Pit Fight card. It definitely makes sense, now, how aside from removal there could be other uses for Executioner's Swing (giving it a reason to be written the way it is).

We figured we played out the Trample correctly, and I'm glad that we figured it right. I was just over-thinking it.

Ironically the only High Priest of Pennance + Trample examples we could find online dealt with if the high priest was the one with Trample. LoL

So here's the situation. I was trying out my new Orzhov deck. My hubby was trying out his new Gruul deck. Within a few turns, we ran into a situation which we weren't quite sure how to handle. And, surprisingly enough, we weren't able to find a rule clarification online, either. Usually this isn't an issue, because MTGSalvation or the Judge's Blog or some official resource is able to clear things up pretty quickly. Here's how it played out:

My husband had a 10/10 with Trample on the field. It was his only creature. He attacked me. I chose to block with my High Priest of Penance. Upon choosing which permanent to destroy, I chose his creature. Now here is our predicament:

To trigger the high priest's ability, it has to be dealt damage. So the destroy doesn't go off until the combat damage resolves on the priest. However, does the destroy occur between the combat damage and the Trample damage? Or does the Trample damage resolve at the same time as the combat damage? I know that in cases like Double Strike, the creature can be destroyed between the First Strike phase and the regular combat phase -- does Trample work the same way?

I couldn't find any resource that could clarify this for me. My husband feels that the Trample damage is just an extension of the combat damage, so it shouldn't be considered a separate "damage phase".

However, then you take into consideration cards like Executioner's Swing. The creature has to deal damage before you can utilize that card, as well. So once it's dealt damage, what is the point of giving it -5 to its power? The card might as well read "gives target creature -0/-5" or "destroys target creature with toughness 5 or less" (as I've seen similar rules on other cards).

Anyway, if someone could clear this up for us, we'd be very grateful. Thanks!

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ajvasta wrote:

that looks like a promo card, which are not currently part of their database

Actually, they have quite a few promo cards in their database. I was able to add all of the other promo Planeschase cards to my deck. This was the only one they didn't have.

Thank you for the response HikingStick. Sorry I missed that post. At least now I understand why the card isn't in the database and know who I need to contact about the missing information. smile

Update: For the record, I went to TCGPlayer and looked up Tember City. They do have that card. And all of the other cards from that set is being pushed by their API to Deckbox -- so I'm not sure where the breakdown is occurring that is preventing Tember City from showing up in Deckbox's database. I have, however, sent TCGPlayer feedback letting them know that it is happening. So hopefully they will be able to fix whatever problem is causing it.

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This card is still missing from the database. Is there a better place to report these kinds of issues? I don't mean to sound impatient (I know you guys are probably working on more pressing issues), but I just want to make sure I'm reporting this in the right place.

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Hey guys. I was putting together a Planechase deck and was adding my planes cards when I noticed you guys are missing one from the database. It wouldn't even come up. Name of the card is Tember City.

Here's a link to the card: http://magiccards.info/query?q=tember+c … mp;s=cname

Thanks! smile

I'd second this -- would love to have a place for ALL my cards. Especially if someone were interested in old CCGs that I don't play anymore (I have Rage cards, Net Runner cards, and Spellfire cards that I don't use anymore -- I would put them up for sale / trade for games I do play if I had somewhere to do it).

I have a feeling, though, that the effort it would take to input all of that would be too much for the site admins to tackle. I can only imagine the amount of work they already put into this site on a regular basis.

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My opinion is that a fat pack is worth it to buy once per set -- you get the neat d20 and the cool box (I do like the boxes -- they're sturdier than I expected them to be and the artwork is nice). And if you plan on collecting, the book is a nifty addition to your binder. But beyond that, if you're looking at the amount of cards you get for your dollar, you're better off buying boosters. Look at this price breakdown from one of my favorite sites to buy from (Troll and Toad):

Avacyn Restored Fat Pack ($44.99) - 9 Boosters
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p335405.html

Avacyn Restored 1/2 Booster Box ($49.99) - 18 Boosters
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p344707.html

So for almost the same price, you get twice as many boosters.

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My husband and I are so glad you guys are back up and running. Deckbox is BY FAR the BEST deck building site we've found. Now, to input this big stack of Magic cards that's been sitting on my desk the past couple of days.... big_smile