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(4 replies, posted in Announcements)

Yes, those and, in general, the preconstructed planeswalker / starter decks related to an edition as it is very useful to have a one stop for everything related to that edition. Moreover, some peoples and LGS still have those for sale in different conditions (sealed, opened but complete with everything in mint state, sealed deck but without boosters etc). Personally, this is how I got into the paper MTG after about 20 years of PC play: I've bought cheap older sealed PW decks since I'm not interested in competitive paper MTG (MTG Duels and Arena are enough for that). I also buy those cheap older sealed decks and my kids offer them as anniversary gifts whenever they can and now we have a little MTG community around home. WOTC recently learned that those cheap precons could bring new people into MTG and started only lately to put more reasonable prices on the starter products...

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(5 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

meldon44 wrote:

It's funny you're bringing this up right now! I've actually just been having a conversation with the developer regarding this issue.

Basically, the holdup is that in order to update the Extras editions for C14 - C18, the single-sided versions of the tokens as currently listed would ideally be removed from the database, but this means that they'll also be removed from people's inventories. The tokens can't simply be renamed, because there's no one-to-one relationship between the token faces and the physical cards.

There's two options:

  1. full migration from single- to double-sided tokens (possibly with an alert sent out to affected users and/or a transition period where both versions are supported), or

  2. adding the double- while (permanently) maintaining the single-sided versions in order to maintain backwards compatibility

Hopefully one of these options will be implemented in the not-too-distant future. Because I'm also very anal about my collection! LoL. I won't add Commander tokens until the double-sided versions are available.

Hey there,

If possible, add here a reference to your previous conversation on this topic with the dev. Adding those double sided tokens is no easy task. We should involve more people in this discussion and then our collective wisdom may come up with something not too difficult to implement.

I've personally added just half of the C18 tokens in order to keep the card count accurate. For example, for the C18's Subjective Reality deck I've added only half of the tokens to my inventory: to make it simple, I've added the whole 8 zombies (card number 009) and for the remaining two token cards I've had the choice between Angel and Manifest and I've picked up the Angel.

I think these double sided tokens require a new internal card type, something like a "token pair" which should:

  • let every one choose the card numbers forming the pair such as  T001 + T003 (Manifest + Angel)

  • should add 1 to both tokens on the "Extras - Tokens & Emblems" list (this may imply that one can no longer add these particular tokens to his inventory by "plusing" them on the "Extras - Tokens & Emblems" list since it would require a simultaneous "plusing" of two cards, unless the dev implements something specific for this usage)

  • count as a single card

  • for search purposes should have the token type and searches (by name, by card text, etc.) must consider the content of both sides of the card

I won't expect an automatic setting of the existing cards in peoples' inventories since that would require so many tests and may lead to this feature remaining not implemented but rather let every user correctly set its cards.

Feel free to add your ideas here.

Cheers

ThrabenValiant wrote:

Please*. I'm sure the comment above mine was meant to be respectful and thankful for all the hard work we take for granted so often. Thank you!

Oh, you just stole my thoughts tongue