Topic: Trading situation gone very bad.

I am currently in an ongoing trade that has just been horrible from the beginning. We negotiated a trade and both sent cards as normal. Soon after I got my mail sent back to my mailbox with one of those envelopes saying there was insufficient postage and the envelope was totally ripped with only 3? of  the cards still in it. Naturally I was upset but couldn't really do much about it, so after searching my two LGS managed to buy the cards that were taken and mail again shortly after all this. I let him know what was going on during all of this. It was taking an abnormally long time for his cards to be delivered to me, but seeing as my end ended up taking longer I was fine with waiting. Soon after he received the cards I sent him. Fast forward a couple weeks and I still haven't received his cards and after waiting a week for him to respond (he was at Gencon) he says that he has a tracking number and it shows delivered. I took it upon myself to go to the P.O. and see what they have to say, I asked all my neighbors if they have seen anything, and still have not seen a single card that he shipped. So right now I am out about $45 and nothing to show for it and he won't do any sort of restitution even though per the rules it says it is the senders responsibility. I understand delivery confirmation should be working in his favor, but it still does not change the fact that I have not received a single card.

What should be the proper way of handing this?

Edit: I forgot to mention that I live at an apartment and our mailboxes are a large box with a bunch of little boxes for each apartment requiring a key.

Last edited by dave0192 (2014-08-27 22:02:35)

Re: Trading situation gone very bad.

I'm guessing you've already done this, but it doesn't hurt to check. Have you checked with the office of your apartment building? If the cards were sent in a package that was too big to fit in your mailbox I assume it would end up there.

Also, if he got the label through paypal it will be really easy to confirm that he got the address right. If he didn't then there's a chance he got the wrong apartment number or something.

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Re: Trading situation gone very bad.

He said it was a padded envelope so it should be able to fit in the mailbox. Unfortunately I did check the office and asked the immediate neighbors to no avail. He also did use paypal and the address is right, who other people have successfully mailed to. I asked him if he got insurance because I thought paypal offered $50 free but he is not really making any effort to help me sort this out.

Re: Trading situation gone very bad.

Yeah, this is a really tough situation. I sold a complete modern scapeshift deck a few months ago that was "delivered" except the packaged was torn open and in one of those "Sorry we messed up your mail" plastic bags and the deck was missing. I didn't get insurance so there was nothing I could do, but I tried anyway. The manager of my local PO was very helpful and friendly, but in the end nothing could be done since I didn't have insurance. I ended up just refunding the buyer and eating the $600 loss. Now I get insurance on everything over $100, period.

I'm not sure exactly what would apply here since it was marked as delivered. I know you said you already went to your local PO, but that didn't help for me at all. I don't remember exactly how I did it, but I got in contact with the manager of my local PO through email. I think I may have just found it http://faq.usps.com/adaptivedesktop/faq … t=EmailUs. I'm very sure I sent an email and was responded to (within 24 hours I might add) from the manager of my local PO. It's worth a shot.

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