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sandorgabor86 wrote:

Mie imi place si ideea de a ataca tura 2 pentru 3. Mai ales in Limited. Si in EDH keep it cumm-ing baby

Meh, in limited prefer oricand sa joc dual/tri land in tura 1 si apoi sa pun un 2-drop, ca sa nu mai zic ca e underwhelming daca-l tragi tarziu. Macar individul cu regen din KtK poate sa chump-uie forever. Tipul asta mi se pare somewhat ok prin early/mid-game daca e tinut netransformat, cu mana deschisa, ca blocker - poate sa complice combat-ul pt adversar din moment ce poate sa bata un morph sau un manifest daca bagi 2 mana in el.

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Intrebarea e: Il faci pe asta 3/3 in tura 2 sau joci un Fleecemane Lion? Oricum, Abzan Aggro primeste o gramade de chestii misto. Si pentru cei care zic ca e 13 mana, nu uitati ca e 13 mana impartit pe mai multe ture, deci nicio problema.

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Cum zice viki... planeswalkerii au aratat ca value pe mai multe ture e tot value, chiar daca e mai greu de evaluat. TBH, eu zic ca valoarea lui cea mai mare e ca e un threat cu investitie initiala mica, mana sink decent, si permite mind games. Midrange goodness, si jucat la 3 mana 3/3 si nu mi-ar fi rusine.

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dies to removal

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juzer wrote:

dies to removal

big_smile

Trickster wrote:

Midrange goodness, si jucat la 3 mana 3/3 si nu mi-ar fi rusine.

best bang for the buck ! probabil aici e adevarata lui valoare, cand poti agresa oponentul si cu prima ocazie (necesitate sau manasink) bagi 4 mana aditional pentru trample + lifelink..

vikirosen wrote:

Si pentru cei care zic ca e 13 mana, nu uitati ca e 13 mana impartit pe mai multe ture, deci nicio problema.

nu pot fi de acord cu ultima parte. pentru varianta de joc competitiv este o mare problema sa investesti 13 mana, fie si impartit pe multe ture..
Sa imi spui cum se simte cand pompezi 6 mana in el si pierzi toata tura doar ca sa te trezesti cu el inapoi pe mână sau in cimitir... Mai e "nicio problema" valabil ?!?

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Reality Shift is sick.

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Mi se pare dubios ca setul asta are cacalau manifest, dar nici un morph. Am I the only one?

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Silviu wrote:

Mi se pare dubios ca setul asta are cacalau manifest, dar nici un morph. Am I the only one?

Si mie mi s-a parut dubios la inceput, dar am ajuns la concluzia ca vor sa combine (cel putin pt. draft) mecanicile astea pentru niste scenarii interesante, iar acum chiar cred ca formatul o sa fie mai misto. Creaturi gen Hooded Hydra, Master of Pearls, Kheru Spellsnatcher si alte morph-uri cu CMC < unmorph cost devin mai bune ca manifest face-down decat ca morph face down, in timp ce altele (de ex. moph-urile common) devin mai proaste.

Last edited by Ixithra (2015-01-06 15:07:10)

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Problema mea e ca nu mi se pare destul de consistent manifest+morph. Poate gresesc. Trebuie vazut in practica.

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Aici da, am senzatia ca sunt cam multe carti care fac manifest si prea putin control pentru top of library, deci tare ma astept sa avem si mai multe stalemate boards pline de 2/2 uri. Tocmai din cauza asta cred ca o sa fie bune enchantment-urile alea care fac manifest cu upside.

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m0nstersnatch wrote:
vikirosen wrote:

Si pentru cei care zic ca e 13 mana, nu uitati ca e 13 mana impartit pe mai multe ture, deci nicio problema.

nu pot fi de acord cu ultima parte. pentru varianta de joc competitiv este o mare problema sa investesti 13 mana, fie si impartit pe multe ture..
Sa imi spui cum se simte cand pompezi 6 mana in el si pierzi toata tura doar ca sa te trezesti cu el inapoi pe mână sau in cimitir... Mai e "nicio problema" valabil ?!?

Nu uita ca poti face la viteza de instant, pe sfarsitul turei lui, si mana folosesti pe tura ta cum iti convine.

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Alesha, Who Smiles at Death

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Lukecelmare wrote:

Alesha, Who Smiles at Death

Dies to removal

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Dies to Shock...2/10.

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-can be discarded
-can be countered
-no protection
-locks down with Wrath of Marit Lage
-can be stolen with Old man of the sea/Vedalken Shackles
-can be sacrificed
-is a creature

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Silviu wrote:

Dies to Shock...2/10.

Exact! Why aren't people more excited about the uncommon Shock thingy?

Also, is this guy broken, sau doar mi se pare mie?

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Ixithra wrote:
Silviu wrote:

Dies to Shock...2/10.

Exact! Why aren't people more excited about the uncommon Shock thingy?

Also, is this guy broken, sau doar mi se pare mie?

http://media.wizards.com/2014/ujehvsbfrf153/en_fnmko6d7fe.png

daca ai sacrifice outlet, e foarte bun, ca aparent cineva a avut idea geniala sa puna actiunea de controller-change in efect in loc de cost...
also Jeskai Ascendancy

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There's this kitty, tho
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juzer wrote:
Ixithra wrote:
Silviu wrote:

Dies to Shock...2/10.

Exact! Why aren't people more excited about the uncommon Shock thingy?

Also, is this guy broken, sau doar mi se pare mie?

http://media.wizards.com/2014/ujehvsbfrf153/en_fnmko6d7fe.png

daca ai sacrifice outlet, e foarte bun, ca aparent cineva a avut idea geniala sa puna actiunea de controller-change in efect in loc de cost...
also Jeskai Ascendancy

This guy si Ascendancy pe masa: Activate Defector -> cast Defiant Strike -> Untap trigger, draw/discard trigger -> activate Defector -> cast Dragon Mantle -> Untap trigger, draw/discard trigger -> Activate Defector -> stack resolves, trag 10 carti (!?)

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Ixithra wrote:

-> cast Dragon Mantle -> Untap trigger, draw/discard trigger -> Activate Defector -> stack resolves, trag 10 carti (!?)

..dragon mantle nu are flash tongue

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he probably meant it the other way around

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m0nstersnatch wrote:
Ixithra wrote:

-> cast Dragon Mantle -> Untap trigger, draw/discard trigger -> Activate Defector -> stack resolves, trag 10 carti (!?)

..dragon mantle nu are flash tongue

My bad, my bad. Cast [insert random instant] should do the trick. Orice, doar sa trag alea 10 carti tongue

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