Re: Gatecrash Rumor Mill

TudorGrigoroaia wrote:
Silviu wrote:
TudorGrigoroaia wrote:

Mie chiar imi place mult cu toate ca pare vanilla. In acelasi format cu Restoration Angelsi alte carti (poate chiar Nephalia Smuggler...i can dream) e mult value. Plus, nu e ceva fenomenal sa o vezi castata dupa Thragtusk in standard (6 carti, on the spot + 6/6)
E foarte interesanta cu Wolfir Silverheart (13/13 - trage 13).
Beef and Cards, what more do we want. In cel mai rau caz isi face un cycle de 6 mana si pune un blocker.

Thragtusk->Zegana...cred ca aia in cel mai prost caz e "Draw 3, put a 4/4 onto the BF" hmm
Atata goodstuff.dec peste tot devine boring intr'un punct.

Nu trage carti egal cu numarul de countere ci cu power-ul ei, prin urmare va trage 4 carti daca e numai tokenul de la Thrag pe masa. Is niste subtilitati care conteaza in ansamblu.

your point? vb de worst case scenario

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Silviu wrote:
TudorGrigoroaia wrote:
Silviu wrote:

Thragtusk->Zegana...cred ca aia in cel mai prost caz e "Draw 3, put a 4/4 onto the BF" hmm
Atata goodstuff.dec peste tot devine boring intr'un punct.

Nu trage carti egal cu numarul de countere ci cu power-ul ei, prin urmare va trage 4 carti daca e numai tokenul de la Thrag pe masa. Is niste subtilitati care conteaza in ansamblu.

your point? vb de worst case scenario

Pai nu tot 4 trage daca iti omoara cineva Tuskul?

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Re: Gatecrash Rumor Mill

TudorGrigoroaia wrote:
Silviu wrote:
TudorGrigoroaia wrote:

Nu trage carti egal cu numarul de countere ci cu power-ul ei, prin urmare va trage 4 carti daca e numai tokenul de la Thrag pe masa. Is niste subtilitati care conteaza in ansamblu.

your point? vb de worst case scenario

Pai nu tot 4 trage daca iti omoara cineva Tuskul?

pai asta voiam sa zic..:)

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TudorGrigoroaia wrote:

Stiti cu ce 6 drop face pereche buna? Cu Deadeye Navigator. Pay 1U : draw 6 cards. smile)

Gentlemen start your draw engines!

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TehAuthor wrote:
TudorGrigoroaia wrote:

Stiti cu ce 6 drop face pereche buna? Cu Deadeye Navigator. Pay 1U : draw 6 cards. smile)

Gentlemen start your draw engines!

draw and evolve on a stick!

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Pai daca tot vorbim de combo-uri atunci sa fie pe masa Corpsejack Menace, si tragi automat 9 carti + 8 countere pe Zegana smile

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TudorGrigoroaia wrote:
Silviu wrote:

Sunt singurul care a fost putin dezamagit de Zegana? E puternica si permite niste lucruri destul de faine.
Dar in acelasi timp parca e destul de vanilla...

Mie chiar imi place mult cu toate ca pare vanilla. In acelasi format cu Restoration Angel si alte carti (poate chiar Nephalia Smuggler...i can dream) e mult value. Plus, nu e ceva fenomenal sa o vezi castata dupa Thragtusk in standard (6 carti, on the spot + 6/6)
E foarte interesanta cu Wolfir Silverheart (13/13 - trage 13).
Beef and Cards, what more do we want. In cel mai rau caz isi face un cycle de 6 mana si pune un blocker.


Trage "doar" 9. Nu 13.

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primeste +4/4 ca-i dai soulbound.

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Prima data verifica care e cea mai mare creatura de pe teren. Wolfir fara soulbond e 4/4 , deci intra cu 4 countere . Dupaia in functie de cum pui stack-ul se face soulbond si  ETB trigger , deci 9/9 si trage 9 carti.

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BinaryLatin wrote:

Prima data verifica care e cea mai mare creatura de pe teren. Wolfir fara soulbond e 4/4 , deci intra cu 4 countere . Dupaia in functie de cum pui stack-ul se face soulbond si  ETB trigger , deci 9/9 si trage 9 carti.

Cred ca totusi tu pui abilitatile pe stack si alegi sa se faca cea a lui Zegana ultima.
We need some judge help.

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Din cate am citit eu :

Depending on how you stack the triggers (and assuming you control no creatures other than wolfrir), you will be able to draw 5 or 9 cards- not 13.

Zegana's first ability is not a trigger- it is a replacement effect. It will check your creatures before she is on the battlefield. This is before Silverheart's soulbond can even trigger, much less resolve. Silverheart is a 4/4 so she will enter with 4 counters- as a 5/5.

When she enters the battlefield, soulbond and her draw ability will trigger. You control both so you can put them on the stack in any order. Her power is checked on resolution so one of two things will happen:

If you put the soulbond trigger on the stack first, Zeganna's ability will resolve first. At this point she is a 5/5 so you will draw 5 cards.

If you put Zeganna's ability on the stack first, soulbond will resolve first. Pairing her with wolfrir will make her a 9/9. When her ability resolves, you will draw 9 cards.

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Deci si daca ai ceva de genu pe masa
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138205&d=1356930270

Zegana intra ca 2/2 , si dupa aia se pun triggerele.
Asta inseamna ca Zegana "will always trigger evolve"

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BinaryLatin wrote:

Prima data verifica care e cea mai mare creatura de pe teren. Wolfir fara soulbond e 4/4 , deci intra cu 4 countere . Dupaia in functie de cum pui stack-ul se face soulbond si  ETB trigger , deci 9/9 si trage 9 carti.

da..maxim 9 o sa tragi..
daca ai un Wolfir de 8/8 (cu soulbound activ) o sa intre ca 9/9
daca ai un Wolfir de 4/4 (fara soulbound) o sa intre ca un 5/5, dar o sa aiba loc 2 triggere:
-soulbound
-draw cards = power.
poti alege sa se rezolve mai intai soulboundul si Zegana sa devina 9/9. dupa aceea se rezolva abilitatea de draw cards = > 9.

si da...chiar e faina chestia ca evolveul e 100% of the time triggered

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Mi-a placut cum Scorpse intotdeauna a citat din CH, deci:

"603.3b If multiple abilities have triggered since the last time a player received priority, each player,
in APNAP order, puts triggered abilities he or she controls on the stack in any order he or she
chooses
.[...]"

Deci da, cu un unpaired Silverheart (asta daca el are cel mai mare power pe care controlezi), poti sa tragi 9 carti, pentru ca tu decizi cum pui abilitatile pe stack (see the parts in bold).

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Another spoiler..sort of..
Giant Adophage(M)
Basically, Spawnwrithe de 7/7 cu aceleasi abilitati la 5GG

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And the image:

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Nu stiu daca merita sa fie mythic,...

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Mersi pt update:)

fistyke wrote:

Nu stiu daca merita sa fie mythic,...

E OP in limited cu populate?

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fistyke wrote:

Nu stiu daca merita sa fie mythic,...

Asta a zis lumea si la Craterhoof Behemoth.

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Si inca o carte buna pentru EDH si limited:

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In EDH e chiar foarte tare si cuplata cu Deadeye Navigator face jocul tau mult mai puternic.
In ziua de azi poti cupla aproape orice cu Deadeye Navigator si iese o combinatie buna:)

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Nu stiu voi cum simtiti, dar ...

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E AWESOME!!!!

Eu o sa il folosesc in commander cu Isochron Scepter :-)

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lvalics wrote:

Nu stiu voi cum simtiti, dar ...

http://static.starcitygames.com/sales//cardscans/MAG_GTC/3ccRjreWsnrSUyTX2.jpg

E AWESOME!!!!

Eu o sa il folosesc in commander cu Isochron Scepter :-)

Awesome e putin spus e OP

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omg, omg OMG!!1

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Holy Sh*t!! Asta da guildmage!!

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madre de dios....

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