Re: Mono Blue Devotion
You can, but every card you get away from the build you're cutting the power level down. jace does a lot in the deck, from card advantage to letting the deck play a more midrange game against aggro and increasing your devotion.
Re: Mono Blue Devotion
You can, but every card you get away from the build you're cutting the power level down. jace does a lot in the deck, from card advantage to letting the deck play a more midrange game against aggro and increasing your devotion.
Is there some way of compensating for the loss of power the build will have?
Re: Mono Blue Devotion
You can jam other cards in but they won't be jace.
IDK what you're inventory looks like if you have/could trade for ashiok, but you might be able to splash black for him or even neighbor specter if it's not already in your build.
You would need something similar that created card advantage and provided a threat. Neither of those is as flexible as jace IMO in the deck, but it could work.
You have to understand that the mono blue that came out of the pro-tour was developed and highly tested by the SCG team which is a group of high level players with a proven track record.
Re: Mono Blue Devotion
You can jam other cards in but they won't be jace.
IDK what you're inventory looks like if you have/could trade for ashiok, but you might be able to splash black for him or even neighbor specter if it's not already in your build.
You would need something similar that created card advantage and provided a threat. Neither of those is as flexible as jace IMO in the deck, but it could work.
You have to understand that the mono blue that came out of the pro-tour was developed and highly tested by the SCG team which is a group of high level players with a proven track record.
You bring up a very valid point, because the decks they develop are heavily tested and worked upon, so they are pretty much at their peak. The main reason I was trying to find a way to fix it is that I don't want to make the deck, and then have the Jace have his price beat down to like 7 bucks thanks to the duel decks. I feel like Ashiok could work pretty nicely though considering he is like a beefed-up version of Nightveil. But I think I may try to get Jace in there if I can.
Re: Mono Blue Devotion
the duel deck won't drop the price of jace that much if at all, and you're also talking about a few months for now we have another set released at about that time and more people will be looking for jace so the demand will go up too.
Re: Mono Blue Devotion
I run a mono U Devotion that doesnt run Jace and I find it runs quite well. The big musts IMO are:
Thassa
Master of the waves
Tidebinder
Frostburn
The rest is down to preference and feel.
Heres my list
http://deckbox.org/sets/491235
Some extra card draw in the side can help but its mostly just about learning what you need in your mulligans. (2 lands that generate U, 2 turn 1/2 drops, and a bomb ideally) I havent entered any major tournys with it obviously but its come in first in 3 Tournys at different local stores. One of which it was piloted by someone who hadnt seen it until 10 mins before the tourney started.
Re: Mono Blue Devotion
I run a mono U Devotion that doesnt run Jace and I find it runs quite well. The big musts IMO are:
Thassa
Master of the waves
Tidebinder
FrostburnThe rest is down to preference and feel.
Heres my list
http://deckbox.org/sets/491235Some extra card draw in the side can help but its mostly just about learning what you need in your mulligans. (2 lands that generate U, 2 turn 1/2 drops, and a bomb ideally) I havent entered any major tournys with it obviously but its come in first in 3 Tournys at different local stores. One of which it was piloted by someone who hadnt seen it until 10 mins before the tourney started.
You can totally make the list without Jace, but I think you're missing out on all the advantages that he can provide. Jace is great against agro and generating card advantage in grinding matchups. he can steal games if you're able to -2 him more than once.
Re: Mono Blue Devotion
You can totally make the list without Jace, but I think you're missing out on all the advantages that he can provide. Jace is great against agro and generating card advantage in grinding matchups. he can steal games if you're able to -2 him more than once.
For sure Jace is great just not 100% needed to be competitive in a local setting. I know when I bought in Nightveils were like $4 and Master of the Waves was $8 Im not sure I could afford the extra jaces at current prices.
Jace, Memory adept isnt a horrible pairing in the deck either, hes not as good mind you but more affordable and helps give you more reach in Control Matchups where you need a little more gas.
Last edited by TRZ (2013-10-29 14:34:46)
Re: Mono Blue Devotion
Yeah, jace memory adept is awesome and I have 3 for trade...
Re: Mono Blue Devotion
Yeah, jace memory adept is awesome and I have 3 for trade...
Im actually trading 1 of my current two away..lets chat :3