[ Closed ] Site-wide card pricing changes (Page 3 of 8)

I don't think anyone said they ever did surveys or research? I think the point she's making is they were going to monetize the site or shut it down because it was to much work to do for free anymore, and hooking up people that have cards and people looking for cards to buy/sell as an alternative to trade seems more natural than just charging for a membership or something.

This is my point.  Typically, if you're going to start a business model, you do some research beforehand.  I'm just curious to learn the thought process.  Because it seems that it was done without research or surveying, and now has the very real potential to bite them.  I hope that it ultimately doesn't, but it's undeniable that the potential is there.

This is the most overreactive statement Ive seen. The fact that all your cards and decks are still listed and stored in once place means nothing? Trading didnt stop. Is it really that much extra work to have an extra browser window open next to deckbox to TCG or SCG or ebay or mtgprice or wherever to do a quick search of the current price of a card? Sure this is an extra step in the process but honestly, if you are that concerned about having the most current price of a card when completing a trade/sale, this should be something done regardless if a price generated automatically or an idea in your head on how much its worth.

Im honestly shocked by the amount of negativity and the lack of patience some people have.

While I haven't done any development on Deckbox in the past year, I have followed closely its evolution as I have to stand Sebi's moods each day as he curses at the code and I have advised him during the development.

Reading everything posted here just reminds me of the Diablo 3 forum posts back when they launched (eg. "They broke Diablo", "this sucks", etc.) but I can't say I'm very surprised. As a former MtG player myself, I admit the amazon prices are not close to an ideal solution.

To address some of the questions raised here, as it seems that some of you don't see the big picture.

- Deckbox is not a big company (3 people)
- the ads we had didn't support the tiny company
- donations wouldn't have been enough to support it either
- we have taken into consideration adding premium-like features, but that would have been conflicting with Wizards of the Coast and that's not a company we want to be arguing with
- we have considered many other monetisation possibilities
- the marketplace was chosen as a solution for monetisation because it makes sense and fits in the whole logic of Deckbox
- yes, we expected TcgPlayer to not be happy, but we didn't expected them to be unhappy so soon :-)

I am not trying to get your sympathy or pity, I am simply explaining why proper market research wasn't done, why we chose to add the martketplace and why we added the Amazon prices. I understand this ruins some people's trades at the moment and we are in a less than comfortable place right now, but as mentioned before, it is not a permanent solution.

So please, bear with us, we understand and we are working on it

I think one of the main points is this is up front a temporary transition state from what it was to what it will be. People aren't out of line for waiting to see what is coming next. Also I think you can appreciate Amazon's pricing information is bad. It would be better to leave pricing data out completely than have very unreliable data.

Well That's incredibly rude.. These regular people have put in all their time and dedication to provide us with a well established trading service for free!
I probably wouldnt even be playing modern, OR the standard decks I wanted to play if it wasnt for deckbox trading without spending a silly amount of cash on additional cards. Deckbox is the best thing that has happened to me during my time playing MTG.

Also, why would you cancel your existing trades, is it really that difficult to open another browser to reference prices during this TCGPlayer dilemma? I feel sorry for the people that were trading were you.

I am very sad that TCGPlayer has done this to Deckbox, but their Idea is very impressive and I like shopping from them (when I cant trade for what I want) as is. However, this is just a crazy good strategy for them.

Like others have suggested, maybe we can hop on the MTGPrice/MTGStocks API data until deckbox data is a little more established...

I know, right?  HOW DID ANYONE EVER TRADE ONLINE BEFORE THIS DEVASTATING CATASTROPHE?!?!?!

Deckbox team, you could take the position of: Our service was so convenient and useful, that people forgot how to live without it...

Yeah I don't think it's necessary to voice that this pricing thing is a huge issue.  It's pretty obvious to everyone, including the dev team.  It's also equally obvious that they couldn't continue using the TCGPlayer API with legal threats on their backs.

I'm fine with just waiting a little while to see how they fix the pricing issue.

I will be the first to admit that this is true for me.  It's a lot of the reason I'm so upset.  There was a time in my life when I didn't have a vehicle of my own.  Now that I do, if it were suddenly taken from me, yes I would live.  But you can be damned sure that I'd be amazingly annoyed.

sorry I tend to gloss over hyperbolic statements on the internet, I'd like to think most people that use the internet for some time learn to ignore them. Yes of course statements like that are unreasonable, but they arent' really the point either. I understand this isn't a choice per say, the whole pricing thing, but it is unexpected, which tends to draw reactions out of people, and amazon is not a good pricing data source for magic cards. I think that is the main point people want to express, that a sudden switch of pricing data to a less than reliable source is making people more reserved about transaction on deckbox, given that it was stated up front today that this is a transition and not the new final form of pricing data. It is better, for me at least,  to regroup and see what comes next than to boldly plow ahead with inferior data. Yes I could do my own pricing with a trade partner, but I don't have anything I need to acquire pressingly to bother at this point in time. I'm not going to ignore deckbox, I'm just not going to open or accept new trades for a little bit.

Thank you, this is a proper response to the "crisis at hand"....Just decrying TCG for being a bully and mean to you on the playground is a poor way to represent your newly founded business. No corporate entity would allow a competitor to get all its hard work for free...unless you will go on record stating that you will allow any competing site to fully index your prices and use them to undercut you?