Topic: B/U/R (Black/Red/Blue) Modern Mill Control~

At first my deck was pretty terrible because it ran really high cost cards like Consuming Abberation and Nicol, Bolas.

Edited my list with a little help. Maybe you guys can help me out? Our locals allow us to use 20 proxies smile so that helps out alot!

Now the decklist

Lands (21)
x3 Scalding Tarn
x2 Watery Grave
x2 Steam Vents
x4 Mountains
x5 Islands
x5 Swamps

Creatures(14)
x3 Vexing Devil (Self-explanatory, it pressures your opp)
x2 Desecration Demon (Mainly was for the control mirror but I suppose it works in main)
x4 Jace's Phantasm (Self-explanatory)
x2 Wight of Precinct Six (Not a bad card overall)
x2 Dark Confidant (Self-explanatory)
x1 Rakdos Cackler (Most likely taking out because it's not really needed at all)

Sorcery (14)
x3 Glimpse the Unthinkable
x2 Damnation
x3 Thoughtseize
x4 Gitaxian Probe
x2 Devastation Tide

Instants (8)
x1 Thunderous Wrath (Actually might take this out)
x1 Lightning Bolt (It's really great but do i take it out? or do i pick up more?)
x2 Visions of Beyond
x4 Archive Trap

Enchantments (2)
x2 Bitterblossom

Planeswalker (1)
x1 Liliana of the Veil


I was thinking of taking out the Thunderous Wrath and Cackler for 2 more bolts or something else.

Sideboard (15)
N/A

My sideboard is noobish because it's not proxied but what CHEAPish sideboard do you guys suggest?

Re: B/U/R (Black/Red/Blue) Modern Mill Control~

This deck confuses me alittle.

Using Glimpse + Wight and Phantasm is kind of a cool idea. But Im not sure it classifies as mill. Likewise Im not seeing a lot of control elements in here but semantics is relatively minor.

So with that in mind, is your goal to mill your opponent out or use the mill to empower other options?

If Mill is your goal:
-3  Vexing Devil
-1  rakdos Cackler
-2  Wight of precinct six
-4  JAce's Phantasm
-4 gitaxian probe
This needs to be replaced with stuff that further the milling goal.
Hedron Crab
Thought scour
+1 Glimpse the unthinkable
mind grind
mind funeral

If big beats are your preference I would get rid of the following..
-2  Desecration demon
-1 rakdos cackler
-2 damnation
-3 thoughtseize
-4 gitaxian probe
-2 devastation tide
-2-4 archive trap

and I would add more of the following
Wight of precinct six
Vexing Devil
Shelldock Isle????
Breaking // entering
lightning bolt


In general here are some other thoughts.

Lightning bolt is better than thunderous wrath in general. Lilliana doesn't do  a whole lot specifically for this deck because you also need a lot of your cards in hand and you dont have anything with flash back to just use anyway.

On the side board front start with some silver bullets against common deck types. Then add in some other bits and pieces that might be helpful to adjust the way the deck plays.

Torpor Orb
Leyline of Sanctity
Relic of Progenitus
Shatterstorm
hurkyl's recall

Re: B/U/R (Black/Red/Blue) Modern Mill Control~

Hmm I really like the way my deck runs. I mistakenly took a hand without a black mana(deck didn't shuffle well D: ) and i ended up paying for it later. Around Turn 4-5 I drew one and I was at 10 life O_O (they have an awkward deck...they thought fetch lands weren't relevant in his deck lol.

They had 12 life.

I had 1.

Damnation

Next Turn Desecration

Win~

Thunderous wrath is trash I'll admit xD I just threw it in there temp. because it's a hilarious card to run. I think before I make changes to the deck, I should actually see how well it runs against other COMPETITIVE DECKS. I'll play the store owners American Control (Red/White/Blue).

I guess the point of my deck was if i couldn't kill my opp with milling + phantasm  + wight then I'd just kill them with Desecration (attempt to).

ALSO

Vexing Devil is in there for the early pressure vs opp. If i don't get him until later game, he still acts as a chump blocker (4/3) for 1.

Probe is in there because it can potential be a 0 drop but you lose 2 life in the process.

Re: B/U/R (Black/Red/Blue) Modern Mill Control~

I'll probably replace a few cards for Mana Leaks and Remands.

I have a Witchbane Orb in side vs Mirror matches (mill)
I have Glaring Spotlight to take care of that Geist guy.

Re: B/U/R (Black/Red/Blue) Modern Mill Control~

Right but you're basically trying to win by beating down an opponent with a fatty after milling them abit.

So some things to consider..

Against decks like zoo or tokens Desecration Demon can be kept off the board by being sacced out against because you have little to no removal to keep the pressure on. And these are the sorts of decks that can afford to because they'll beat you down before you can do anything to stop them.

Similarly Vexing Devil is a good card BUT it is still in bolt range AND if your opponent has the life it makes sense to pay for a devil 90% of the time.

Probe is a great card don't get me wrong. But its a great card in decks where you 1) want to cycle 2) want to see the opponents hand so you know when to go off. This deck wants neither of these things specifically. In the same vein Thoughtscour makes a good substitution because it cantrips, and mills someone for just 1 mana. Its not bad value when filling a cantrip slot like that.

Re: B/U/R (Black/Red/Blue) Modern Mill Control~

Hmm true.

Let's go over my CURRENT list.

Lands (22)
x3 Scalding Tarn
x2 Watery Grave
x2 Steam Vents
x4 Mountains
x5 Islands
x6 Swamps

Creatures(14)
x3 Vexing Devil
x2 Desecration Demon
x4 Jace's Phantasm
x2 Wight of Precinct Six
x2 Dark Confidant
x1 Rakdos Cackler

Sorcery (13)
x3 Glimpse the Unthinkable
x2 Damnation
x2 Thoughtseize
x4 Gitaxian Probe
x2 Devastation Tide

Instants (8)
x1 Thunderous Wrath
x1 Lightning Bolt
x2 Visions of Beyond
x4 Archive Trap

Enchantments (2)
x2 Bitterblossom

Planeswalker (1)
x1 Liliana of the Veil

Now what I'll do is take out some cards
-1 Liliana
-1 Thunderous Wrath
-4 Gitaxian Probe
-1 Rakdos Cackler
-3 Vexing Devil
-2 Wight

Then I'll add in
+1 Glimpse
+2 Mind Funeral
+2 Hedron Crab
+4 Thought Scour?
+2 Mind Grind

3 more slots

SIDEBOARD
+4 Shatter Storm
+2 Hurky's Recall
+2 Thoughtseize
+2 Fulminator Mage

5 more slots, not sure

Re: B/U/R (Black/Red/Blue) Modern Mill Control~

Personally I like the wight over the desecration demon and Mind Funeral over Grind but those are both preferences really.

To fill out the last three slots I think I'd probably go something like 2 Lightning Bolts 1 Mind Funeral or some such.

On the sideboard front something like...

2 Shatter Storm / Hurky's Recall
2 Thoughtseize
2 torpor orb
4 Anger of the Gods
2 Fulminator/Tectonic Edge/ghost quarter
3 Tormod's Crypt

Main Deck I think you have a bit of space to tweak your mana too since your red requirements aren't too bad. Something like:

-3 Mountains
+1 Blood Crypt
+2 Tectonic Edge/Ghost Quarter

Could probably work.

Re: B/U/R (Black/Red/Blue) Modern Mill Control~

TRZ wrote:

Personally I like the wight over the desecration demon and Mind Funeral over Grind but those are both preferences really.

To fill out the last three slots I think I'd probably go something like 2 Lightning Bolts 1 Mind Funeral or some such.

On the sideboard front something like...

2 Shatter Storm / Hurky's Recall
2 Thoughtseize
2 torpor orb
4 Anger of the Gods
2 Fulminator/Tectonic Edge/ghost quarter
3 Tormod's Crypt

Main Deck I think you have a bit of space to tweak your mana too since your red requirements aren't too bad. Something like:

-3 Mountains
+1 Blood Crypt
+2 Tectonic Edge/Ghost Quarter

Could probably work.


Hmm thanks!