toranaga wrote:Cat despre Celestian Archon, de ce as vrea sa joc cartea respectiva ca enchant (asta daca am inteles bine cum functioneaza).

Pai cine stie, ai vazut mana adversarului si e acolo un essence scatter, dar fara negate sau cancel etc. daca joci ca enchantment, nu poate sa contreze. Evident fortez eu acum situatia, dar e un exemplu.

toranaga wrote:Cat despre Celestian Archon, de ce as vrea sa joc cartea respectiva ca enchant (asta daca am inteles bine cum functioneaza).

..sunt multe situatii in care merita sa o joci pentru bestow: topdeck si nimic altceva mai bun de facut, impotriva unui oponent care joaca mass removal, pentru a da flying unei creaturi care la sol nu face mai nimic, etc.

m0nstersnatch wrote:

toranaga wrote:Cat despre Celestian Archon, de ce as vrea sa joc cartea respectiva ca enchant (asta daca am inteles bine cum functioneaza).

..sunt multe situatii in care merita sa o joci pentru bestow: topdeck si nimic altceva mai bun de facut, impotriva unui oponent care joaca mass removal, pentru a da flying unei creaturi care la sol nu face mai nimic, etc.

In teorie da, dar 7 mana...never

Nu toate cartile sunt pentru standard, modern, legacy etc. (constructed competitive)
De obicei, rarele din intro pack sunt 0.5$ pentru ca nu sunt competitive, insa, sunt perfecte pentru kitchen table magic si pentru limited. Gatecrash a fost o mare greseala ca format(sursa - Mark Rosewater http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/262) motiv pentru care si MaRo a recunoscut ca l-a facut mult prea rapid. In mod normal, o bomba de 6-7 mana ar trebui sa fie cel putin jucabila.
Toate aceste carti prezentate sunt foarte bune in limited. Chiar daca le joci ca vanilla in prima faza( 6/6 pentru 6 mana in blue si 4/5 pentru 4 mana in red ) zic ca merita. Unele carti precum krakenul sau archonul sunt bombe si asta datorita efectului devastator pe late game al krakenului si faptului ca archonul poate functiona ca un 4/4 flying first strike si dupa ce creatura pe care e folosit enchantmentul este distrusa.
Also, se pare ca folosind bestow nu trebui sa iti faci griji ca adversarul are removal instant pentru creatura pe care vrei sa o enchantuiesti. Daca are removal si il foloseste, enchantul tau va intra ca si creatura pe masa(sursa, matt tabak https://twitter.com/TabakRules/status/372219786903556098)

Enchantment Creature e un tip nou, da +1 la goyf?

benczi wrote:Enchantment Creature e un tip nou, da +1 la goyf?

Din cate stiu mai exista enchant creature, dar e posibil sa ma insel. Tin minte insa de ceva din planeshift asemanator

http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=130691

Exista, intradevar.

Nu poate da +1 la Goyf deoarece nu e un supertype nou...si creature si enchantment exista deja.



Posibila carte pentru Thasa, God of the Sea (cel putin ceva asemanator):

{2}{U}
Legendary Enchantment Creature -God M
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to blue is less than five, Thassa isn’t a creature. (Each {oU} in the mana costs of permanents you control adds to your devotion to blue.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, scry 1.
1U: Target creature you control can’t be blocked this turn.
5/5



Asta ar implica faptul ca Scry este a 5-a mecanica a setului. (si ultima - deoarece stim de ceva vreme ca sunt 5 in total dintre care una e returning si una e retweaked - Devotion e un retweak la Chroma)

Lucent Liminid Inca mai fac preview-uri de future sight?

Da Gabi, sa vezi de nu o sa fie pony-ul asta in Theros.

Cred ca am playset de de-astia... ii clar atunci, cu asa bomba tre sa ma reapuc de standard :P

6 posibile legendare noi:


Twillight Sparkle as vrea sa fie Constructed playable. Ar putea fi urmatorul Consecrated Sphinx. Numai daca ar fi fost 2/5 :(

Thassa, God of the Sea 2u
Legendary Enchantment Creature -God M
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to blue is less than five, Thassa isn’t a creature. (Each u in the mana costs of permanents you control adds to your devotion to blue.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, scry 1.
1u: Target creature you control can’t be blocked this turn.
5/5

benczi wrote:Thassa, God of the Sea 2u
Legendary Enchantment Creature -God M
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to blue is less than five, Thassa isn’t a creature. (Each u in the mana costs of permanents you control adds to your devotion to blue.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, scry 1.
1u: Target creature you control can’t be blocked this turn.
5/5

Citeste mai sus...am zis deja.

Va arata ceva de genu(asta e doar un mockup):

benczi wrote:Thassa, God of the Sea 2u
Legendary Enchantment Creature -God M
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to blue is less than five, Thassa isn’t a creature. (Each u in the mana costs of permanents you control adds to your devotion to blue.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, scry 1.
1u: Target creature you control can’t be blocked this turn.
5/5

FENOMENAL!!!!

A doua abilitate functioneaza doar cand este pe masa, nu? Adica, daca ai devotion to blue mai mic de 5 cand o castezi, poate celalalt sa-i dea Essence Scatter, nu?

Iar mecanica Bestow mi se pare superba. Intr-adevar un mod fain de a folosi enchantment-urile. Atentie, copii: luati-va Oath of the Ancient Wood acum, inainte sa se scumpeasca!

TudorGrigoroaia wrote: Citeste mai sus...am zis deja.

Yep, scuze. E o carte prea awesome :D.

singerete wrote:Da Gabi, sa vezi de nu o sa fie pony-ul asta in Theros.

Nu stiu ce sa zic. Desi pare sa fi iesit din setul asta, in flavour text face referinta la "sun goddess", iar pe Theros zeita soarelui este un zeu (si are cohones mari, din cum reiese din artwork). Vom vedea :)

Devotion Ritual BB
Instant (Rare)
Search your library for a Legendary card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library. You lose 6 life.

m0nstersnatch wrote:Devotion Ritual BB
Instant (Rare)
Search your library for a Legendary card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library. You lose 6 life.

pare destul de slaba cartea. Vampiric Tutor/Demonic Tutor desi nu iti puneau cartea in mana, manacostul era mai usor, puteai cauta orice carte, si nici oponentului nu trebuia sa arati, ... -6 viata?

benczi wrote:

m0nstersnatch wrote:Devotion Ritual BB
Instant (Rare)
Search your library for a Legendary card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library. You lose 6 life.

pare destul de slaba cartea. Vampiric Tutor/Demonic Tutor desi nu iti puneau cartea in mana, manacostul era mai usor, puteai cauta orice carte, si nici oponentului nu trebuia sa arati, ... -6 viata?

Grislebrand would like to have a word with you!
..search Griselbrand, discard, reanimate, draw, rinse and repeat - totul intr-o tura?!?
[color=red][nevermind - was called fake!][/nevermind - was called fake!][/color]

+a lot of new artwork: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/262c

Pacat ca-i fake, ar fi fost ceva deck in jurul ei mai mult ca sigur. Anyway, ii funny, devotion ca mecanica dupa un set multicolor ii interesant. Also, faptul ca scry s-o intors ii awesome, una dintre cele mai bune mecanici de blue.

Se pare ca acum ca au schimbat regula de legendare, o sa avem din nou un set plin cu ele.

Btw, Naturalize is the new Doom Blade

Magma Jet got confirmed..

m0nstersnatch wrote:Magma Jet got confirmed..

nice one ...

poate ca magma jet ar fi putut fi in MM?


si ati vazut astea? :
Here are some things you can expect from Theros:

A 3/3 with three abilities that uses fate counters
Multiple cards with the word "nongorgon"
A high-profile cycle of legendary permanents that are not creatures or lands
A rare card with five words of rules text in which one of the words is "planeswalker"
An artifact creature that appears to be a big horse made out of wood
A 5/5 giant snake that can be cast for Green ManaGreen Mana
A multicolor Minotaur lord
A card that could have been in Modern Masters
A giant that brings fire to humans
A creature with a saboteur ability (it has an effect if the creature deals combat damage to an opponent) which is one of the Power Nine

benczi wrote:poate ca magma jet ar fi putut fi in MM?


si ati vazut astea? :
Here are some things you can expect from Theros:

A 3/3 with three abilities that uses fate counters
Multiple cards with the word "nongorgon"
A high-profile cycle of legendary permanents that are not creatures or lands
A rare card with five words of rules text in which one of the words is "planeswalker"
An artifact creature that appears to be a big horse made out of wood
A 5/5 giant snake that can be cast for Green ManaGreen Mana
A multicolor Minotaur lord
A card that could have been in Modern Masters
A giant that brings fire to humans
A creature with a saboteur ability (it has an effect if the creature deals combat damage to an opponent) which is one of the Power Nine

1. Magma Jet nu e cartea care ar fi putut fi in MMA deoarece MMA nu a avut Scry ca si mecanica. Cartea cea mai probabila e Thoughtseize(zis si Cashseize) care chiar daca nu va fi reprintata in primul set din Theros, sunt sanse mari sa fie reprintata in unul din urmatoarele 2 seturi(cel putin astea sunt ultimele discutii)

2. cartea despre care vorbesti se numeste Menomai si e o legendara cu mana cost 4UW care cel mai probabil va avea ca text:
Flying
Whenever Menomai deals combat damage to a player take an extra turn after this one. Menomai can't attack in extra turns.
P/T necunoscut

Again with the Thoughtseize thing?
Desi aparent va fi o subtema de vise(flavourwise).

nu stiu de Thoughtseize, dar UW pare sa fie din nou a thing cu cartile care vin. (si aici ma gandesc ca si decurile o sa fie si la pretul de cawblade)

Silviu wrote:Again with the Thoughtseize thing?
Desi aparent va fi o subtema de vise(flavourwise).

De fapt, treaba cu Thoughtseize nu e asa veche.
Doar la M14 s-a mai preconixat ca apare. Inainte se credea ca va fi in MMA.
E cea mai scumpa carte din Modern carw trebuie reprintata si nu e OP pentru standard. Din pacate, cele doua surse de informatii despre Theros de pe Salvation se bat cap in cap. Unul zice ca Thoughtseize va fi in Born of the Gods, celalalt zice ca nu va fi in Born of the Gods. Amandoi sunt siguri ca va fi reprintat in Theros Block. Repet, astia sunt oameni care au aflat de carti precum Thassa, Magma Jet si Medomai.
Also, in ultimele ore se vehiculeaza posibilitatea unor landuri duale cu scry 1 sau 2. How awesome is that? Scry e chiar o mecanica perfecta.

HTW do these guys find these spoilers ahead of time? Are they janitors at Wizards?