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10-Jun-2011 06:27 (Last edited: 10-Jun-2011 06:28)
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tocmai de aceea am dat excerpt din rules :

“If an opponent was dealt damage this
turn, this permanent enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters on it.”

Such text is a static ability—not a
triggered ability—whose effect occurs as part of the event that puts the permanent onto the
battlefield.


pentru ca functioneaza.


Functioneaza in momentul cand jocul il pune pe battlefield (nu conteaza cum a ajuns :cast, put into play).


603.6b Continuous effects that modify characteristics of a permanent do so the moment the
permanent is on the battlefield (and not before then). The permanent is never on the battlefield
with its unmodified characteristics
. Continuous effects don’t apply before the permanent is on
the battlefield, however (see rule 603.6e).
Example: If an effect reads “All lands are creatures” and a land card is played, the
effect makes the land card into a creature the moment it enters the battlefield, so it
would trigger abilities that trigger when a creature enters the battlefield. Conversely, if
an effect reads “All creatures lose all abilities” and a creature card with an enters-thebattlefield
triggered ability enters the battlefield, that effect will cause it to lose its
abilities the moment it enters the battlefield, so the enters-the-battlefield ability won’t
trigger.


Ca analogie ia Phyrexian metamorph. El copiaza ceva dar fiind pe stack nu ar functiona, dar cand intra in play intra in play precum o copie a cuiva si atunci primeste abilitatile si se si trigaruiesc abilitatile gen EBT.

In magic exista eventuri la care nu poti raspunde si le face jocul. Put into play este un astfel de event.
Bloodthirst functioneaza exact cand un permanent este pus pe masa, si modifica acest lucru. permanentul intra cu x contoare, si nu este trigered, doar static.


sper ca te-am lamurit.
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10-Jun-2011 09:14 (Last edited: 10-Jun-2011 09:44)
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Good discard for black:

Distress
Com.

Sorcery
Target player reveals his or her hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card.

Sper să mai bage încă ceva discard în seturile următoare. Discard jucabil, nu căcănării de 3 mana...

și am râs de m-am spart la cartea asta:

Goblin Bangchuckers
Unc.

Creature – Goblin Warrior
{T}: Flip a coin. If you win the flip, Goblin Bangchuckers deals 2 damage to target creature or player. If you lose the flip, Goblin Bangchuckers deals 2 damage to itself.

I'm sooooooooo gonna draft it and play it!!!
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Swiftfoot Boots 2
Artifact - Equipment (U)
Equipped creature has hexproof and haste.
Equip 1

Manalith 3
Artifact (?)
Tap: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.

Stonehorn Dignitary 3w
Creature - Rhino Soldier (C)
When ~ enters the battlefield, target player skips his or her next combat step.
1/4

- Lord de iluzii, very neat.

Ceva carti din DotP 2012 (printre ele posibile carti m12 si reprint-uri):
http://www.examiner.com/magic-the-gathering-in-national/magic-the-gathering-duels-of-the-planeswalkers-2012-review-picture#slide=34271526
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Iluzii deci. Arata fain.
Cartile de pe site-ul respectiv sunt insa un pic ciudate. Or fi posibile reprint-uri de M12 acolo, dar sper ca nu le pun exact cum sunt acolo. Exemplu e Duplicant (type: Dragon Shapeshifter :/). Sau Mox Sapphire ... Desi un Keiga in M12 ar fi chiar fain :D.
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mda, white prettyboys again. gasca de crizanteme... don't touch their hair!
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13-Jun-2011 22:52 (Last edited: 13-Jun-2011 22:56)
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Turn to frog e genial <3.


edit: goblini! :D si strictly worse equipment.

si si mai edit: Hunter's Insight. Nu inteleg ce vrea sa zica=/. Whenever nu inseamna ca doar o data face asta? Ma rog, de doua ori daca ai double strike.
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poate "draw that many cards" se refera ca daca faci 3 damage tragi 3 carti? :/ desi nu cred..
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Zgarbas wrote: si si mai edit: Hunter's Insight. Nu inteleg ce vrea sa zica=/. Whenever nu inseamna ca doar o data face asta? Ma rog, de doua ori daca ai double strike.

"Whenever" pur si simplu inseamna "ori de cate ori". Daca iti faci atacuri infinite cu Hellkite Charger si Bear Umbra, atunci de fiecare data cand da damage se va trigger-ui abilitatea.

Si "draw that many cards" inseamna "atatea carti cat damage face". Daca faci 1 damage, o carte, daca faci 10, zece carti.
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in alte cuvinte, "asta da card draw"
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Zgarbas wrote:in alte cuvinte, "asta da card draw"

Corect, si mi se pare un card draw chiar fain in verde, daca stii sa-l folosesti.
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15-Jun-2011 00:33 (Last edited: 15-Jun-2011 00:45)
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lovesti cu un fatty cand ai mana libera(sau shenanigans gen Bear umbra sau swordul ala). BAM! Alt fel de-al folosi mai e?


P.S. Abia amu mi-am dat seama ca nu m-am uitat pe decklisturi si am sarit direct la cartile noi. asa.

GOBLIN GRENADE!
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15-Jun-2011 04:11 (Last edited: 15-Jun-2011 04:15)
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Spoiler M12 : Jace's Archivist


Ceea ce zice e in felul urmator:
1UU
Creature- Vedalken Wizard
, : Each player discards his or her hand,then draws cards equal to the greatest number of cards a player discarded this way.

Asta e cartea semnatura a lui Jace. Sincer mi se pare foarte puternica si pot spune ca blue se va juca aggro-midrange in 2011-2012. Ce ma convinge sa spun asta sunt urmatoarele carti: Phantasmal Bear, Phantasmal Dragon, Lord of the Unreal, Grand Architect, Jace's Archivist.
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15-Jun-2011 06:08 (Last edited: 15-Jun-2011 06:12)
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Zgarbas wrote:edit: goblini! :D si strictly worse equipment.
Ce strictly worse equipment? Daca-i vorba de cizme, hexproof > shroud.

Neat card, 3 mana 2/2 si card draw on a stick, whoppeee. Facand abstractie de faptul ca asta da carti si la oponent, Archivist saracul pare obsolete. Is curios si eu daca tribul de iluzii o sa fie mai jucabil decat merfolk, da' ma indoiesc... scars ne lasa cu aggro destul de bun. Poate daca mai apar iluzii si prin innistrad?

Btw, zombie infestation ii reprintat, so maybe u/b aggro/midrange?
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Zombie infestation fara madness e degeaba :)
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Nici cu card draw repetabil? :P Nu stiu zau...
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Nu cred ca se va face un card draw atat de bun incat sa poti juca cartea cu succes
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toranaga wrote:Zombie infestation fara madness e degeaba :)

zombie infestation nici nu s-a jucat cu madness.

si oricum inca nu aparuse madness atunci (era odyssey). abia in torment (setul 2 din blocul odyssey a aparut madness).

s-a jucat pt graveyard tricks, si reanimator.

de fapt, zombie infestation cu creatura aia de 3cc 2/2 de trage carti :
discard all cards to make zombies....draw x cards (cate are oponentul) pe eot. practic eu scot value din cartiel discardate.
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Trickster wrote:
Zgarbas wrote:edit: goblini! :D si strictly worse equipment.
Ce strictly worse equipment? Daca-i vorba de cizme, hexproof > shroud.
ce hexproof?


<
accorder&#39;s shield

&

<=
Loxodon&#39;s Warhammer (egalul fiindca warhammerul e rara si ca ...unora nu le place sa aiba viata. presupun).
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Pai si care e avantajul la Kite Shield fata de accorder&#39;s shield? Eu personal prefer pe a doua. Desi era greu de echipat si asta si o foloseam mostly in limited, nu in constructed. Si culmea Kite Shield e uncommon pe cand accorder's shield e common si are si vigilance. Am I missing something?
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Exact asta ziceam. Strict mai prost decat accorder's shield.


Cred ca ai incurcat < cu semnul de mai mare :P
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Ah, scutul? Nobody's gonna play it more than accorder's anyway :P Mda, n-are avantaj, doar ca design-ul ii mai clean si potrivit pentru un core set. De fapt... ai pe masa un Grave Pact si un Grave Titan fara nici un token, iar oponentul ii la 7 viata si are emrakul. Tu ai in mana un sunblast angel. Cu ce ai vrea sa fie echipat grave titan-ul? :P
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Loxodon's Warhammer (egalul fiindca warhammerul e rara si ca ...unora nu le place sa aiba viata. presupun)
lifelink ca lifelink, dar trample e cireasa de pe tort. si eu m-am gandit la warhammer cand am vazut echipamentul asta, dar adevarul e ca nu cam au ce sa fie comparate, loxodon e mult peste si in plus loxodon in acelasi standard ca si thrun ar fi... one happy day for me :P
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Trickster wrote:Ah, scutul? Nobody's gonna play it more than accorder's anyway :P Mda, n-are avantaj, doar ca design-ul ii mai clean si potrivit pentru un core set. De fapt... ai pe masa un Grave Pact si un Grave Titan fara nici un token, iar oponentul ii la 7 viata si are emrakul. Tu ai in mana un sunblast angel. Cu ce ai vrea sa fie echipat grave titan-ul? :P

Sword of Body and Mind+Sword of Feast and Famine+Sword of war and peace+Batterskull si cireasa: +Sword of Vengeance
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Trickster wrote:Ah, scutul? Nobody's gonna play it more than accorder's anyway :P Mda, n-are avantaj, doar ca design-ul ii mai clean si potrivit pentru un core set. De fapt... ai pe masa un Grave Pact si un Grave Titan fara nici un token, iar oponentul ii la 7 viata si are emrakul. Tu ai in mana un sunblast angel. Cu ce ai vrea sa fie echipat grave titan-ul? :P

Cel mai probabil ca scutul e facut special sa mearga la pachet cu Puresteel Paladin , metalcraft usor de activat plus ca tragi 8 carti in total cu 0 mana cu scuturile astea.
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pai.. singura diferenta intre cele 2 scuturi e vigilance... kinda useless
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nightride wrote:pai.. singura diferenta intre cele 2 scuturi e vigilance... kinda useless
Nu are importanta ce abilitati au atata timp cat exista o carte cu care pot sa faca un combo util , ele sunt bune pentru simplu fapt ca au un cost de 0 mana. De asemenea as vrea sa te contrazic in privinta abilitatii de vigilance , e una dintre cele mai bune abilitati din punctul meu de vedere alaturi de first -strike -duble-strike si trample. Poti ataca cu creatura in tura ta si bloca cu aceasi creatura in tura adversarului deci nu vei ramane niciodata descoperit , iar acuma cum vremurile astea sunt cu infect risti daca nu ai blocher si nu blochezi sa te omoare infectul cat ai zice peste.
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:) eu ma refeream la scutul nou ca e inutil fata de Accorder's Shield pentru ca e acelasi lucru doar ca nu are vigilance. logic ca vigilance-u` e important.
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