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(14 replies, posted in General Discussion)

elpablo wrote:

Also, if you look at the the decklists that play dark confidant you have a top CMC of like 4 in the deck and only a few of those.  Most are 1-2-3 and provide substantial value when they hit the board.

Do you think that the confidant from Gatecrash will see any type of play? Not the Duskmantle

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(14 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Elpablo I completely agree with you on what you are saying, but my baseline point was that in 1 weekend a single card went from being 'Meh' to OMG ITS THE GREATEST EVER.... without a single person playing it but Reid Duke.

Drivers may not work on their cars that much, but they know car mechanics enough to know when a tire has too much wear, when their fuel/air mixture isn't providing enough combustion, and when the downforce angle in each turn needs adjustment. You would never hear them say 'Earnhardt did it, so i do it too" (they would be dead or badly injured for not wearing their seatbelt). Most drivers know their limits which is why they do or don't do things behind the wheel. The process of this takes failing and the understanding of a cars mechanics so they can understand how not to crash, where to shave seconds, where to drive fast and take chances while conserving fuel.

Reid Duke (the driver) understands that adding a fuel enhancer (horizon canopy) works (for him).  I guarantee you. NO ONE used the card in that deck type. Because of the life loss. Now the card draw outweighs the life loss? I doubt it. Many top players can tell you and explain why something works and does not. Even when the answer is clear, they research so that they can explain themselves fully not "well Reid Duke did it, it must be good." Did you ever think he used the canopy because going against a line of thinking was the advantage?

Again, my argument is that there's not a full understanding of the process. It is what it is, but as I said its sad, not something I condemn people for. As an FNM warrior myself I can tell you that I 100% agree with your time argument. However, I am going to say you are smart enough to pick up Woo's deck and tell me why things do and don't work, why you made changes, and why these changes lead you to the checkered flag at any FNM. Most people can not. In the end this is where I'm coming from.

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(14 replies, posted in General Discussion)

PhyrexianLibrarian wrote:
Dakkon4444 wrote:

Hello everyone

I've been playing semi competitively for about 2 years now in standard and have a pretty form grasp of why cards are considered good (staples) in multiple formats.... But i'm no patrick Chapin or Brian Kibler.

So I'd like to know from everyone why the following cards are good/sought after because frankly I don't get it:
(BTW, Im hoping for answers besides 'they are staples')

Horizon Canopy
Rishadan Port
Life and loom (I don't truly understand the dredge mechanic so this may be an easy one)
Daybreak Coronet
Dark Confidant (to me because depending on the deck, the life loss seems really bad esp in life losing formats ie modern and Legacy)

Please forgive my spelling smile

Thanks everyone! I hope to interact and elevate my knowledge

Horizon Canopy - It's a dual land, which is always in demand, but the fact that it "cycles" (i.e. draws you a card in exchange for itself) is very powerful. When you need a land in the early game, that's what it is; when you top-deck it later in the game or don't need any more lands, you get an extra card draw. The fact that white and green don't get very many other options for card draw means that this card allows WG decks to have a bit more reach than they would otherwise.

Rishadan Port - There's a reason you see this card played primarily in decks that only need 1 or 2 lands in play, and often in combination with Wasteland (particularly Goblins). Being able to lock down your opponent's lands is a huge tempo play, especially in Legacy where your opponent may only need a few lands in play. In formats where the difference between one land and two lands is large, Port makes a really big difference.

Life from the Loam - Any deck that either wants spare cards in hand (Seismic Assault), wants cards in the Graveyard (Re-animator, Gifts, etc)., or any combination of the two gets a huge boost from this card. You can lock your opponent out with Raven's Crime and other spells with retrace, continually destroy lands with Tectonic Edge while invalidating your opponent's land destruction back, and all kinds of crazy useful things.

Dark Confidant - Drawing two cards every turn while your opponent draws one is borderline cheating. It attacks for two, and if your deck only has spells with casting cost 1 or 2, the life loss is negligible compared to the huge advantage you gain.

Daybreak Coronet - By far the best Aura to slap on your hexproof creature, and the GW Auras deck is really popular right now thanks to Reid Duke's performance at Worlds. Also hasn't been reprinted and it was originally in a very under-drafted set.

Very insightful! Maybe because my playstyle doesnt lend itself to play these cards, but your explanation helps alot. Thank you your for knowledge and wisdom!!

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(14 replies, posted in General Discussion)

elpablo wrote:

I never got that argument.

There's a reason why people use wheels.  We've improved on the design a little, but in general it's a round support with an axle. 

Should we not use wheels too, because they're not original?  Does it make you feel bad when you use a wheel because you didn't think of it first?  I can spend time trying to put together a better wheel, but really I'm going to save myself a lot of time, by just using the wheels provided and put them to the best use possible.

We are talking about magic the gathering, not structural engineering. Case in point: NO one played squadron hawk. Then overnight it became a thing? how long was that combo out there while everyone called the card weak, trash, Jank, etc. Again we can argue about the wheel all we want but my counter to this is that trial and error came into play and the 3.14 equation became the wheel.

Reid Duke played the card one weekend and without understanding the science or the depth of using it EVERYONE flocked like sheep. We all know the phenom known as Reid duke is good. However, if you are saying that we shouldn't question (think for ourselves) you are off base IMO. Explain to me why Horizon Canopy is good (Thank you PhyrexianLibrarian).

And to answer your wheel question, I do question it. There's always a way to improve or make better or completely do away with a theory or way of life. There's a reason why people walk too, use airplanes, submarines, Hot air balloons, and pogo sticks.

first 3 packs of modern masters box:

Foil vendillian CLique
Tarmagoyf

Foil Elspeth
Dark Confidant

foil Blinkmoth nexus
Vendilian Clique

Needless to say, I haven't been inclined to buy another box since....

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(14 replies, posted in General Discussion)

WuTrain wrote:

This is to the best of my knowledge so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Horizon Canopy is just a solid land.  Now, if you're asking why it's so expensive, it's because Reid Duke played it in his GW Aura modern deck that won at Worlds.

BOOOOOOOO! This is why more magic players need to think for themselves, or just have the confidence to try things out despite failure.... SADFACE

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(14 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Hello everyone

I've been playing semi competitively for about 2 years now in standard and have a pretty form grasp of why cards are considered good (staples) in multiple formats.... But i'm no patrick Chapin or Brian Kibler.

So I'd like to know from everyone why the following cards are good/sought after because frankly I don't get it:
(BTW, Im hoping for answers besides 'they are staples')

Horizon Canopy
Rishadan Port
Life and loom (I don't truly understand the dredge mechanic so this may be an easy one)
Daybreak Coronet
Dark Confidant (to me because depending on the deck, the life loss seems really bad esp in life losing formats ie modern and Legacy)

Please forgive my spelling smile

Thanks everyone! I hope to interact and elevate my knowledge

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(0 replies, posted in Decks and Deckbuilding)

So Im going to put myself out there and ask how the deck type Maverick got its name. Any takers? Thanks alot!!

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(8 replies, posted in Reddit MTG Trades)

BUMP

BUMP

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(8 replies, posted in Reddit MTG Trades)

woodmster123 wrote:

i already have atrade with you could you possibly answer it?

Im actually going over your tradelist. I havent forgoten you just prioritising what I need vs wha I want (in the trade vs what you have in your tradelist)

Paul_K wrote:

I have hundreds (literally)

Sweet! Not sure if I need 100, but if theres anything listed in my tradelist that you'd like to get a hold of for some of your foil lands, post them in a trade. Cheers!

Cowabunga2 wrote:

Are you looking to purchase or trade? If you are purchases, how much are you valuing them at?


Im looking to trade for them. If you have bulk items you are looking for I am willing to help fill those needs if I have them

Looking for the following ATM. Accepting all trade considerations including inventory only items (Within reason and please)

Lifebane Zombie
Abrupt Decay
Basic Foils
Vampire Hexmage
Avacyn's Pilgram (korean)
Unburial Rites (Korean)
Mindshrieker (korean)
Seraph of the Sword
Jung Park and John Avon Full art Lands
Garruk Relentless (Foil M12)x2
Shocklands (RTR Block Only)
Nissa Revane
Grim Return
Oracle of Mul Daya
Lotus Cobra
Mother of Runes
Experiment one (Promo Foil)
Judge's Familiar (Promo Foil)
Ulvenwald tracker
Pit Fight (Foil and Normal)
Deathrite SHaman
Tajic, Blade of the Legion
Reap Intellect
Loxodon Smiter
Arid Mesa
Marsh Flats
Blood Baron OF viscopa (non foil & Foil)


Thank you all! Cheers

Hey guys

Im looking for foil basic lands for Draft. If interested let me know. Thanks!

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(2 replies, posted in Reddit MTG Trades)

Good luck man! Im trying to collect them as well. Its going to be a tough one to accomplish for the planeswalker collection.

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(4 replies, posted in Trading Post)

Welcome to Deckbox! Hope you have a great experience and get to improve your decks!

HAVE FUN! PLAY TO WIN!

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(1 replies, posted in Trading Post)

Hello

The cards posted here are not yet updated in your trade list. Is it possible for you to add them to help in the initiation of trades?

Cheers!

Hello everyone. I was hoping that someone who has either traded with or knows personally a fellow Deckbox member Darktire can help get me in touch with him. Hopefully all is well with him. Thanks everyone!

try emailing him through the profile. icon is on the top left

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(2 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

It has occured to me that if you are on your smart device and you havent closed the window that you are still considered online in Deckbox. Is there a way to create a timer so individuals dont think you live and breathe on deckbox when you are actually not at your computer?

Check your trade list. Cheers!

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(6 replies, posted in Decks and Deckbuilding)

I feel like primeval titan makes Maze;s end insane.... thoughts???

Im getting into modern. can someone explain the all the advantages of dark confidant? I just dont understand why losing the life to gain the card advantage is so good. SERIOUS REPLYS!

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(13 replies, posted in Reddit MTG Trades)

Innistrad! by far the best box next to dragon's maze currently