Would you be willing to include your Verdant as part of a deal for a Cryptic?

I have an extra Teferi, slight play.  I would like to get a Thoughtseize or a couple Hallowed Fountains as part of the deal, but almost everything on my wishlist would be cool too.

Start up a trade if you're interested.

Ti interessa una catena italiana fulmini?

Updated OP.

Updated.

I agree with cutting black and taking out the Lizard and making room for the Frostburn Weird.  The Regent is a bomb, but BBB is really tough to get.  You also need to get rid of the chronic flooding because mill SUCKS as a strategy…seriously, seriously.  Here's my suggestion:

-1 Nec Regent
-1 Ultimate Price
-1 Assassin's Strike
-1 Bellows Lizard
-1 Chronic Flooding

+1 Lightning Strike
+1 Rage of Purphoros
+1 Ill-Tempered Cyclops
+1 Ordeal of Purphoros
+1 Frostburn Weird

This gives you more consistency in your mana base and you still have the Sealock Monster and Shipbreaker Kraken as your bombs.

I have a foil DRS what has some wear on the front corners.  Here are some scans.

http://imgur.com/a/c8TVd

Hello,

I received a Gatecrash fat pack, 2 Gatecrash and 3 Dragon's Maze booster packs as a gift.  I have no need for any of the cards from those sets and thought someone might want to trade for some.
Check out my wish list and see if we can work something out.  My highest (Standard) priorities are:

Archangel of Thune
Temple of Malice
Temple of Triumph
Thoughtseize
Ephara, God of the Polis
Hero's Downfall
Temple Garden
Chandra, Pyromaster

I'm also interested in KMC perfect fit and KMC Matte Black sleeves as well as Grixis colored Innistrad and Scars lands as well as less expensive stuff in my wishlist.

I'm asking for $40 in cards for the fat pack because it costs $8 to ship it with tracking.  Boosters are negotiable.

Send me trade offers!  Thanks for looking.

I  have an unopened Gatecrash fat pack.  I have no need for any of the cards from that set and thought someone might want to trade for one.
Check out my wish list and see if we can work something out.  My highest (Standard) priorities are:

Thoughtseize
Elspeth
Temple of Triumph
Archangel of Thune
Rakdos's Return
Mutavault
Hallowed Fountain
Hero's Downfall
Ashiok
Temple Garden
Chandra, Pyromaster

I'm also interested in KMC perfect fit and KMC Matte Black sleeves.
I'm asking for $40 in cards because it costs $8 to ship it with tracking.

Bump.

161

(6 replies, posted in Foil Traders)

Bump.  Looking to get $45-50 for it.

It depends on what you're looking for, but I'd be interested in a Xathrid Necromancer.

Updated OP.  Still looking.

Hello,

I am trying to acquire the following lands:

2x Drowned Catacombs
1x Blackcleave Cliffs
1x Temple of Malice
1x Lavaclaw Reaches
1x Seachrone Coast
2x Glacial Fortress

Additionally, these less expensive cards:
1x Bile Blight
1x Day of Judgment
4x FNM Forbidden Alchemy (I value at $1 each)
2x FNM Izzet Charm (I value at $2 each)
1x FNM Sin Collector (I value at $2)
2x Blind Obedience
2x Sanguine Bond

Take a look at my trade list and let me know if we can work something out.  I'd like to keep the trade above $10, so feel free to check out the rest of my wish list for other stuff to make this work.

I have a Griselbrand, Geist and some planeswalkers in my trade list.  I am NOT interested in trading them towards these cards.  Sorry.

elpablo wrote:

my .02... this is just about mill as a strategy and not about problems with your deck specifically... IE: 20 lands in this style of deck is asking for problems.

Mill is an alternate win condition that some decks can employ, but it's not "how" you win the game.  You can't just mill your opponent to death and nothing else.  It's a bit like a burn deck, but it's much less efficient.  Here's some comparisons.  If you assume their deck is their "life" total then best case you go first and they start at 52 life... So we'll compare cards in a dimir mill deck and a RW burn deck.

so 52 = 20  , cards in deck (CID) vs actual life (AL).  here are some comparisons of mill cards vs direct damage cards because really that's what you're doing, you're attacking their life total directly.

Comparisons of like costed cards: mill vs burn


Shock, 1 CMC > 2 damage,  2/20 = 10% of their AL. 
Tome Scour, 1 CMC>  mill 5 , 5/52 = 9.6% of CID

Lightning Strike, 2 CMC > 3 damage, 3/20 = 15% of AL
Paranoid delusions, 2 CMC > mill 3, potential to cipher for more 3/52 =   5.8 % of their CID
Edit: i'd just like to say that the amount of creatures you need to run to make this effective are counter productive to the strategy and they're also very subject to removal.  Mutavault is actually a decent target for a cipher effect, but all the ciphers cost to much and are garbage in general.

(boros burn doesn't play any 3 CMC bur spells, so i chose an efficient creature the use)
Chandra's Pheonix, 3 CMC > 2 damage, 2/20, 10% of AL
Pilfered plans, 3 CMC > mill 2, 3.8% of CID
Edit: you draw 2, sure, but the pheonix's ability is more relevant to the game plan they're employing.  You're going to draw more mill that does nothing against their plan.

Storm Breath Dragon, 5 CMC > 4 damage, 4/20, 20% of AL
Jace, Memory Adpet, 5 CMC > 10 mill, 10/52, 19.2% of CID

if you look at it this way, even in my examples only a couple of the cards come close to providing the same "life total" reduction you get with straight burn.  Here's the kicker though... all the spells I mentioned also, impact the board, you can't remove or block opposing threats with any of these mill cards except jace, but he just dies to opposing creatures.

So in order to "burn" your opponent to death with mill you have to include a bunch of cards that don't impact or interact with the board at all.  Not to mention that, decks like UW control run elixir of immortality and just do a better ob of control than your deck does.  Aggro decks won't care if you mill them they're going to beat you before get there and your counter spells come online too late to stop their big threats with no board wipes.

So how do you "win" as mill?  You _have_ to control the board there's no other way to do it, and employ a powerful mill card to "finish" the game and be able to protect it.   Esper is the only deck can do that right now, and you _must_ run the UW shell in order to appropriately control the game and then use ashiok/jace to finish the job with mill... also keep in mind that cards like psychic strike while moving your mill plan forward do nothing to help you find answers to the next threat like dissolve does... I can't tell you the number of times i dissolved a threat only to scry away a land and top deck another answer.

Mono black splash U "might" be able to do this strategy with ashiok/phenax, but you'd be sacrificing some of the 1-1 answers it uses to grind out the game for alternate win condition it doesn't need to employ to win.

TLDR:  If you want to have fun games at the kitchen table with mill, by all means go ahead... but know that mill is a bad strategy, mill cards are bad for the value they provide and they don't do anything for your board.

friends don't let friends play mill... the more you know...

SECOND!

Updated.

167

(2 replies, posted in Commander Trading)

I started a trade.  I may be able to meet you in person if we can work something out.

Bump.  Added some cards to the OP.

169

(0 replies, posted in EDH traders)

Here is a link to the scans of the DRS.  It's never been played, but there's some whitening on the front, bottom corners.

http://imgur.com/a/c8TVd

I'm looking for some combination of the following if you're interested:

Geist of Saint Traft
Hallowed Fountain
Glacial Fortress
Seachrome Coast
Thoughtseize

Looking to get $45-50 in trade value based on the card's condition and the going rate on TCG player.

170

(2 replies, posted in Commander Trading)

Here is a link to the scans of the DRS.  It's never been played, but there's some whitening on the front, bottom corners.

http://imgur.com/a/c8TVd

I'm looking for some combination of the following if you're interested:

Geist of Saint Traft
Hallowed Fountain
Glacial Fortress
Seachrome Coast
Thoughtseize

Looking to get $45-50 in trade value based on the card's condition.

171

(6 replies, posted in Foil Traders)

Thanks for the info!

172

(6 replies, posted in Foil Traders)

I don't know.  The white areas are foily, so I don't know if it has something to do with the printing process.

Has anyone else experienced this?  I'm not too familiar with foil cards.

173

(6 replies, posted in Foil Traders)

Here is a link to the scans of the DRS.  It's never been played, but there's some whitening on the front, bottom corners.

http://imgur.com/a/c8TVd

I'm looking for some combination of the following if you're interested:

Geist of Saint Traft
Hallowed Fountain
Glacial Fortress
Seachrome Coast
Thoughtseize

Looking to get $45-50 in trade value based on the card's condition and the going rate on TCG player.

I don't see anything in your trade list around that price point.  I'll start a discussion to take it offline.

I'm almost positive I have all of the following:

Zuran Spellcaster
Hunt the Weak
Kelsinko Ranger
Kjeldoran Skyknight
Scryb Sprites
Attended Knight
Elven Cache
Miracle Worker

However, I don't see any equally small/inexpensive stuff that I'm interested in.  I'm interested in your Blackcleave Cliffs.  Do you want to take a look at my trade list and see if there's something more valuable that we can make work?