Topic: Mono-Blue Devo!

this has been a work in progress for about a month maybe a lil less smile
as it stands its complete except for the 4 mutavaults (which probably wont happen w/o  a crap load of pack luck pulls)
anyways this is a small variant of the current build decided to keep mizzium skin atleast in SB for the mono-red i play at my local shop (also mono black)

played this last friday went 1-1-2, the tie was against esper 2nd round kinda lucked out and pithed his jace, and nykthos into 2 nightveils. then the tie break we just stalled

but noticed i have a problem with mana which im not used to (since i usually play G/R Devo) *F,EM,NYK,CARY,SWING,MOUNTAIN,BTE/BTE/POLUK,NYK(4 9G)/T:EM/CARY(Total:11), perfer :mistcutter hydra(10/10) or BOW/monster poluk (deathping it all), if there is a next turn its over*

so idk at the time i was only using 21 land 1 nyk, and seemed to hit a line of land or get stuck with 2
*just got my 3rd Nightveil specter (4th OTW) and my 2nd jaceAoT... idk what else i should change which is why im here tongue
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Re: Mono-Blue Devo!

If you've gone to the effort to build mono-blue, why not just mirror the top end lists?  I mean really what input can we offer that hasn't been provided by the wealth of pros who have sung the deck's praises?  I think Detora even had an article about a month ago that explained the sideboarding strategies and everything...

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was thinking here bc i cant exactly talk 1 on 1 with them, and honestly talking with a pro would be o no mutavaults just buy them wtf is wrong with u tongue jk but yeah really was trying to figure a way to sub out the mutas if even temporarily i dont think everyone here is willing to drop 120 bucks on a deck they havent played

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So the first thought would be to just proxy them to see how it plays.  If you can get in some casual games that'll let you see if you like the feel for them in the deck and if it's worth shelling out the cash.  They're certainly a good investment as Mutavault sees a fair bit of play across formats... so there's that.

Personally, I know it's a good card and I definitely see where it does work for mono-black letting them further pump their Pack Rats but if I were to do my take on mono-blue I certainly wouldn't be putting Mutavault in there.  Think about it, mono-black wants a LOT of black symbols, but they aren't really making that many plays until turn 3 or later, so a Mutavault & Swamp draw doesn't stick them in a bad spot.  Mono-blue, on the other hand, NEEDS to be able to hit those double blues on T2 - Tidebinder Mage, Frostburn Weird, etc... if you were to draw 2x Mutavault for lands... well... you're sitting there ignoring 95% of the deck for a couple of 2/2 lands.  That's not exactly ideal if you were to ask me.

I would likely cut them for 2-3 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx as you can really just forge into tons of mana and, given the card advantage you're likely to enjoy care of Bident of Thassa and Jace, AOT, you can use that mana to further drop your hand G/R Devotion style.  Obviously that's not ideal for a control matchup, but against almost everyone else you'll be able to drop more stuff, faster, as you can replenish your hand while they really can't.

For control, counters and/or Cyclonic Rift are your best bet.  You're already sitting on the majority of the pieces out there in the sideboard.

I would suggest; however, making a slight change in that both Hands of Binding and Jace, Memory Adept are unlikely to really give you much value.  You would be better suited with Domestication or just plain draw spells like Divination or Opportunity.  Aside from those changes... just read up man, there's a TON out there on how to run the thing and it seems like a pretty linear deck without too many different lines of play.

Re: Mono-Blue Devo!

ty smile i will read up
i would proxy but i play magic with a few who kinda despise proxy lol but
i did like JaceMA for the +0, that was pretty much his only purpose was devo and taking out 10 cards hopefully sphinxs rev, verdicts, gods and PW tends to make ppl aggro tongue

Re: Mono-Blue Devo!

If you're looking for a MUD deck with a more original feel, check out my list. It's pretty different from the typical build, but it puts up similar results. Some tweaking may need to be done for your meta, but the concept is essentially to play a true tempo strategy instead of straight aggro.

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Re: Mono-Blue Devo!

Eliterawr wrote:

ty smile i will read up
i would proxy but i play magic with a few who kinda despise proxy lol but
i did like JaceMA for the +0, that was pretty much his only purpose was devo and taking out 10 cards hopefully sphinxs rev, verdicts, gods and PW tends to make ppl aggro tongue


Sounds like your friends need to reevaluate how they think about playing magic. Proxying cards is a great way to find out if something "works" or is "worth" the money/effort.  Without proxies we can't test things.  Do you think the pros test without proxies?  I know for sure 90% of them test proxy builds before they play and a lot of them don't even own the decks they play at the tournaments.

As for your deck.

Hands of binding is awful.  Doesn't do much for you in this deck.  Doesn't add devotion, not instant originally. Easily removable once cyphered. Just bad.  Claustriphobia or domestication would be better.

No mutavaults? no mutavaults! no mutavaults?!  So I see you have no mutavaults.  The deck really needs them.  Like really really needs them.  With thassa on the board it can be 2 unblockable sweeper immune damage every turn against control. With master of waves out they're 3/3 elementals.  Sounds like you're kind of late to the mutavault party.  If you can't afford to buy them I would borrow them from someone one when you play FNM or whatever.


jace memory adept has no place maindeck in here.   You're an aggro deck, not a control deck.   I think Jace AoT is fine where it's at.

I'd also like to see the deck at 23/24 lands.

Re: Mono-Blue Devo!

mutavaults will come eventually, im pretty good at trading built a total of $500 decks in about a month solely off trades only been playing for about 2 months maybe a lil bit more
my friends dont like proxy bc they have everything and if they find something they dont have they just buy it

once mutas are in ill be 25/26 land, went to 2 JAoT main altered sb to fit more into the pro sb hoping my other nightveil will arrive today, starting to look into mutavaults dont have alot of trade value atm but should be changing soonish

Re: Mono-Blue Devo!

25/26 may be a bit too much, you don't want to flood and you're mana dumps are limited.

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true, as of now i think im running 22island and 2 nykthos
been seeing nykthos in sb in a few blue builds dont quite understand that one

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I don't think I'd put it on the side either.  Nykthos for mono blue helps you do many things.  With dumps like thassa's ability and muta vault, and the ability to draw more cards off bident it becomes a good tool.  It's not 100% necessary,  I think you either want them main deck or you don't and I feel pretty confident in saying mono blue wants some number in their main deck. It's not a 4 of like in GR devotion, you don't lean on it like they do.

I run 1 of nykthos in my mono black, too along with 4 mutavaults.  There are still times occasionally where I hit temple, swamp, vault, nykthos, when all i want is to put my specter on the board.  So you just have to be careful with what you put in the mana base to make sure you can reliably get to the mana you need.