Topic: 5 Color EDH

Hey, I'm new to the EDH format but I do have a really silly EDH. The commander is Child of Alara and its based, more or less, around angels.

http://deckbox.org/sets/628450 <-- the deck. Any and all opinions as well as things to take out or put in are welcome, but please don't hate. Like I said, I have more experience with playing in Standard than EDH, and I'm also not the greatest of deckbuilders.

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Im going to go out on a limb and say that your deck there is more about Angels than the commander is that right?

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TRZ wrote:

Im going to go out on a limb and say that your deck there is more about Angels than the commander is that right?

Yes, and I mentioned that in the second sentence. Its more of a stupid deck than anything, seeing as I don't think, even with as long as some EDH games can take, that it will ever win unless the opponent makes a mistake somewhere or something.

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You're right of course and I should have used my words more properly but I wanted to confirm before giving any advice.


The deck could work as is but there are certainly places it could be improved. Is there a specific reason you want to run child of alara? Is it just to get the 5 colors of angels in? Because in that case it seems like Maelstrom archangel might fit better as a commander. Alternatively Im not sure why you *need* all five colours Jenara, Asura of War is a nice card that lets you use most of the angels you have.

The one card I dont like:
Leyline of Singularity really only does stuff against Tokens, Shadowborn Apostle and Relentless Rats... so IMO its abit of a wierd choice.


your Mana base:
Alot of your spells cost alot and you're running under Lands abit. I'd look to take out some of the odds and ends from the deck and put in either some more lands or some Manarocks since you have a few ways to make your artifacts indestructible anyway.

I'd also look to diversify your mana base abit. You're scewed towards white creatures but your mana is entirely balanced.  Adding in the 10 gates and a Maze's end for example might be a good way to help out. There are certainly dozens of other options if you're inclined to help balance out your mana. (the Lair Lands, other duals and the like)


Sac Outlets:
A couple of sacrifice outlets might be a nice way to do use your Commander to board wipe if the board state gets out of hand. Perhaps Culling Dias Viscera Seer ashnod's altar


Theme:
The angel theme is fine but you also have alot of tools to play with artifacts as is and a commander that wipes the board so what about a few artifact tools and run a boardwipe, artifact sub theme.

With that in mind cards that might be useful to you....

Darksteel Plate
Fabricate
reshape
Diabolic Tutor
Aegis Angel
Restore Balance
Quicksilver Amulet
Summoner's Egg
Clone Shell
Coat of Arms
Decree of Justice
Cryptic Gateway
Angelic Page
Angelic Curator

If you'd like me to be more specific with what I'd personally do with the deck I'd be happy to.

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Part of the reason I'm not using Maelstrom Archangel as my commander is the fact that she's not legendary, although I would like her in my deck. Anyways, Leyline of Singularity combined with Heroes' Podium is sort of what I'm going for, seeing as I don't have a Coat of Arms. That and the fact that Jenara, Asura of War is about 10$ from the nearest card shop. And several of the cards you suggested like Cryptic Gateway, Clone Shell, Summoner's Egg, Reshape, Aegis Angel, Quicksilver Amulet and possibly, though not entirely, Darksteel Plate I agree that they would all make nice additions. Because my EDH currently don't have many wincons if things can't get out fast or my mana basis (aka Chromatic Lantern, Sol Ring and Pristine Talisman don't come out soon.

And specifics are always nice, because it helps me see what others see. Plus, I don't mind if people look at my other decks (including my outrageously stupid Legacy deck I'm sort of coming up with, but can't quite figure out what I want it to do yet, even though I have none of the cards for it except one. Its just an idea thing.)

Plus, none of my decks are capable of being able to sac a creature like for instance Culling Dais Ashnod's Alter and Viscera Seer because that mechanic is simply not found room for.

Last edited by Ookamirozu (2014-03-17 18:37:12)

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Oh man cant believe I missed Maelstrom not being legendary.... Not sure what I was thinking yikes

Karona, False God IS a cool creature that is half angel though. But Child is probably better

I'll fiddle with the deck a bit and then post it when I have what I would do set up.

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I've fiddled for abit now. I dont think this is ideal but I personally like this alittle more. I focused more on gaining life, making some tokens and then getting a wierd win con.

http://deckbox.org/sets/638911?s=i&o=d

you have more artifacts and ways to get key artifacts. Ways to sac out Child to Wipe the board when you're in a pinch and I got rid of some of the cards that need more mana to do things since you dont ramp very hard. I removed singularity and Heroes podium, its a neat combo but a bunch of your stuff benefits from generating tokens and tokens dont like Singularity. I think it could be a pretty wicked theme for another deck though!

I tried to stick to stuff that was in the $1-2 or less range since it sounds like you have a reasonable budget and these are the sort of pieces that are easy to pick up in the long run.

You can see a few pieces in the sideboard that I thought about but eventually decided to cut when push came to shove (also I put your commander in there so I didnt accidentally cut it!)  Obviously it still needs fine tuning but I think its a nice solid start that will synergize alittle better than what you had going on before.

Re: 5 Color EDH

TRZ wrote:

I've fiddled for abit now. I dont think this is ideal but I personally like this alittle more. I focused more on gaining life, making some tokens and then getting a wierd win con.

http://deckbox.org/sets/638911?s=i&o=d

you have more artifacts and ways to get key artifacts. Ways to sac out Child to Wipe the board when you're in a pinch and I got rid of some of the cards that need more mana to do things since you dont ramp very hard. I removed singularity and Heroes podium, its a neat combo but a bunch of your stuff benefits from generating tokens and tokens dont like Singularity. I think it could be a pretty wicked theme for another deck though!

I tried to stick to stuff that was in the $1-2 or less range since it sounds like you have a reasonable budget and these are the sort of pieces that are easy to pick up in the long run.

You can see a few pieces in the sideboard that I thought about but eventually decided to cut when push came to shove (also I put your commander in there so I didnt accidentally cut it!)  Obviously it still needs fine tuning but I think its a nice solid start that will synergize alittle better than what you had going on before.

Hmm... I like a lot of what you did. At this point in time, it would mean figuring out what you took out (which shouldn't be too hard) and making proxies for the things i don't have. I really appreciate the help, and while I understand that Jenara, Asura of War could possibly be a better commander, it would mean taking out red and black, which, while not entirely necessary, means I wouldn't be able to use Child of Alara's ability if necessary. I literally built this deck on a whim, and I'm surprised people are saying it looks pretty good, even some at the nearby card shop.

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One of the nice things about Commander is that theres alot of flexibiltiy in what is good and bad. Wierd cards end up being alot better than expected and you can rely on the synergy of a few strange and high mana cost cards to win you a game.

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Okay, so I need one of each of the guildgates and a Maze's End, other than that I need Cathars' Crusade, Test of Endurance, Mayael's Aria, Descendants' Path, Darksteel Reactor, Manalith, Ashnod's Altar, Fellwar Stone, Culling Dais, Day of Judgement, Fabricate, Perilous Research, Aegis Angel, Treasure Mage, Avian Changeling, Serra Avenger, Angelic Page, Angelic Curator, and Viscera Seer.

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So what would you think of throwing in a Linvala, Keeper of Silence?

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Shes quite good

Iona, Shield of Emeria
Would be another excellent angel to add though they are both quite expensive.

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Yea, I know that, sadly. A good portion of my EDH now has to be proxied since i don't physically have any of it nor enough trade value to get them all. but oh well, i'll live.

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Ookamirozu wrote:

Yea, I know that, sadly. A good portion of my EDH now has to be proxied since i don't physically have any of it nor enough trade value to get them all. but oh well, i'll live.

Have you seen the Blank foil card proxy thing? Where you strip the art off a foil common then print out the new art on acetate sheeting to put in the sleeve? Its pretty nifty way of doing nice looking proxies.

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TRZ wrote:
Ookamirozu wrote:

Yea, I know that, sadly. A good portion of my EDH now has to be proxied since i don't physically have any of it nor enough trade value to get them all. but oh well, i'll live.

Have you seen the Blank foil card proxy thing? Where you strip the art off a foil common then print out the new art on acetate sheeting to put in the sleeve? Its pretty nifty way of doing nice looking proxies.

Hmm I don't know. Don't think so. One of my friends is sposda be finding out if a print shop somewhere near them can do the card art for some/all the cards we need proxied for our decks.