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- - 1. Need
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  - - A. Running
    - - mod 5 Reasons Not to Dig Up a Troll's Grave
      - leg Boros Midrange
      - leg Quest of Burning
    - B. Dismantled
    - - leg Goblin Fire Drill
  - 3. Field Tes ...
  - - mod Boros Tokens
  - 4. Building
  - - mod Copy of 5 Reasons Not to Dig Up a Troll's Grave
    - mod The Jund Fund
    - mod This Is How We Burn (R/W)
    - mod Unleash the Grave (Standard Jund)
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    - - leg Ancient Vengeance
      - leg Scarecrow Like a Mofo
      - vin The Easy Way
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Christopher W's

Ancient Vengeance

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Main Deck - 105 cards, 97 distinct

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	Name	Ed.	Price	Type	Cost	P	T	Modified
	Name	Rarity	Price	Type	Color	P	T	Modified
Creature (39)
1	Aether Membrane		$0.43	Creature - Wall		0	5	12-Aug-2013 03:29
1	Balefire Dragon		$11.41	Creature - Dragon		6	6	04-Aug-2013 10:37
1	Bladewing the Risen		$1.06	Legendary Creature - Zombie Dragon		4	4	04-Aug-2013 10:38
1	Bladewing's Thrall		$0.18	Creature - Zombie		3	3	04-Aug-2013 10:38
1	Bogardan Hellkite		$0.64	Creature - Dragon		5	5	05-Jun-2013 09:05
1	Broodmate Dragon		$0.47	Creature - Dragon		4	4	05-Jun-2013 09:05
1	Dragon Broodmother		$6.06	Creature - Dragon		4	4	04-Aug-2013 10:43
1	Dragon Egg		$0.07	Creature - Dragon Egg		0	2	04-Aug-2013 10:42
1	Dragonmaster Outcast		$0.55	Creature - Human Shaman		1	1	04-Aug-2013 10:44
1	Dragonspeaker Shaman		$1.18	Creature - Human Barbarian Shaman		2	2	04-Aug-2013 10:45
1	Ebon Dragon		$7.48	Creature - Dragon		5	4	04-Aug-2013 10:46
1	Flameblast Dragon		$0.33	Creature - Dragon		5	5	17-Jun-2013 19:07
1	Furyborn Hellkite		$1.23	Creature - Dragon		6	6	05-Jun-2013 09:07
1	Hellkite Charger		$1.23	Creature - Dragon		5	5	05-Jun-2013 09:05
1	Hellkite Igniter		$0.21	Creature - Dragon		5	5	05-Jun-2013 09:08
1	Hellkite Overlord		$0.81	Creature - Dragon		8	8	05-Jun-2013 09:08
1	Hellkite Tyrant		$1.55	Creature - Dragon		6	5	05-Jun-2013 09:08
1	Hoarding Dragon		$0.14	Creature - Dragon		4	4	12-Aug-2013 03:27
1	Imperial Hellkite		$0.50	Creature - Dragon		6	6	04-Aug-2013 10:50
1	Kargan Dragonlord		$0.39	Creature - Human Warrior		2	2	04-Aug-2013 10:51
1	Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund		$6.36	Legendary Creature - Dragon		7	7	05-Jun-2013 09:09
1	Kilnmouth Dragon		$0.88	Creature - Dragon		5	5	04-Aug-2013 10:52
1	Knollspine Dragon		$0.39	Creature - Dragon		7	5	05-Jun-2013 09:10
1	Kokusho, the Evening Star		$24.81	Legendary Creature - Dragon Spirit		5	5	12-Aug-2013 03:28
1	Mana-Charged Dragon		$1.35	Creature - Dragon		5	5	04-Aug-2013 10:53
1	Mordant Dragon		$0.38	Creature - Dragon		5	5	04-Aug-2013 10:53
1	Preyseizer Dragon		$0.29	Creature - Dragon		4	4	04-Aug-2013 10:55
1	Scourge of Kher Ridges		$1.88	Creature - Dragon		6	6	05-Jun-2013 09:14
1	Scourge of Valkas		$1.09	Creature - Dragon		4	4	06-Aug-2013 08:11
1	Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon		$11.65	Legendary Creature - Phyrexian Dragon Skeleton		4	4	04-Aug-2013 10:56
1	Slumbering Dragon		$3.02	Creature - Dragon		3	3	05-Jun-2013 09:28
1	Soulbright Flamekin		$0.26	Creature - Elemental Shaman		2	1	12-Aug-2013 03:34
1	Steel Hellkite		$0.24	Artifact Creature - Dragon		5	5	12-Aug-2013 03:28
1	Thopter Assembly		$0.40	Artifact Creature - Thopter		5	5	04-Aug-2013 11:23
1	Thundermaw Hellkite		$1.28	Creature - Dragon		5	5	05-Jun-2013 09:28
1	Thunderscape Battlemage		$0.30	Creature - Human Wizard		2	2	12-Aug-2013 03:35
1	Utvara Hellkite		$10.76	Creature - Dragon		6	6	05-Jun-2013 09:29
1	Vampiric Dragon		$0.18	Creature - Vampire Dragon		5	5	04-Aug-2013 10:57
1	Zhur-Taa Druid		$0.19	Creature - Human Druid		1	1	12-Aug-2013 03:35
Instant (3)
1	Darigaaz's Charm		$0.27	Instant				14-Aug-2013 03:36
1	Go for the Throat		$0.45	Instant				12-Aug-2013 03:28
1	Golgari Charm		$0.69	Instant				14-Aug-2013 03:37
Sorcery (3)
1	Cultivate		$0.47	Sorcery				12-Aug-2013 03:25
1	Dragonstorm		$2.55	Sorcery				04-Aug-2013 10:33
1	Kodama's Reach		$1.54	Sorcery - Arcane				12-Aug-2013 03:25
Artifact (14)
1	Contagion Clasp		$0.32	Artifact				04-Aug-2013 11:29
1	Contagion Engine		$4.39	Artifact				04-Aug-2013 11:29
1	Darksteel Forge		$41.39	Artifact				04-Aug-2013 11:27
1	Darksteel Ingot		$0.31	Artifact				04-Aug-2013 11:28
1	Darksteel Plate		$3.20	Artifact - Equipment				14-Aug-2013 03:38
1	Darksteel Reactor		$0.61	Artifact				04-Aug-2013 11:29
1	Druidic Satchel		$0.28	Artifact				04-Aug-2013 11:05
1	Gilded Lotus		$1.02	Artifact				12-Aug-2013 03:25
1	Lightning Greaves		$3.61	Artifact - Equipment				14-Aug-2013 03:38
1	Mimic Vat		$0.45	Artifact				04-Aug-2013 11:14
1	Nim Deathmantle		$3.22	Artifact - Equipment				04-Aug-2013 11:17
1	Prismatic Lens		$0.31	Artifact				06-Aug-2013 06:20
1	Quicksilver Amulet		$1.21	Artifact				04-Aug-2013 10:27
1	Trading Post		$0.29	Artifact				06-Aug-2013 03:40
Enchantment (6)
1	Crucible of Fire		$0.87	Enchantment				04-Aug-2013 10:30
1	Gruul War Chant		$0.24	Enchantment				12-Aug-2013 03:27
1	Lurking Predators		$8.88	Enchantment				12-Aug-2013 03:27
1	Parallel Lives		$13.99	Enchantment				04-Aug-2013 11:17
1	Splinter Twin		$10.94	Enchantment - Aura				04-Aug-2013 11:22
1	Warstorm Surge		$0.89	Enchantment				12-Aug-2013 03:28
Planeswalker (2)
1	Sarkhan the Mad		$0.84	Legendary Planeswalker - Sarkhan				04-Aug-2013 10:35
1	Sarkhan Vol		$2.72	Legendary Planeswalker - Sarkhan				04-Aug-2013 10:35
Land (38)
1	Akoum Refuge		$0.18	Land				06-Aug-2013 07:42
1	Blackcleave Cliffs		$0.78	Land				06-Aug-2013 07:43
1	Blood Crypt		$16.31	Land - Swamp Mountain				06-Aug-2013 07:35
1	Cavern of Souls		$30.09	Land				06-Aug-2013 06:48
1	Clifftop Retreat		$0.47	Land				06-Aug-2013 07:41
1	Command Tower		$0.25	Land				12-Aug-2013 03:36
1	Copperline Gorge		$0.41	Land				06-Aug-2013 07:43
1	Dragonskull Summit		$1.25	Land				06-Aug-2013 07:41
3	Forest		$0.07	Basic Land - Forest				14-Aug-2013 11:58
1	Forgotten Cave		$0.16	Land				06-Aug-2013 06:40
1	Fungal Reaches		$0.24	Land				12-Aug-2013 03:36
1	Golgari Rot Farm		$0.34	Land				12-Aug-2013 03:37
1	Gruul Turf		$0.39	Land				12-Aug-2013 04:07
1	Kazandu Refuge		$0.22	Land				06-Aug-2013 07:42
1	Kessig Wolf Run		$0.55	Land				14-Aug-2013 12:08
1	Lavaclaw Reaches		$0.46	Land				06-Aug-2013 07:28
5	Mountain		$0.06	Basic Land - Mountain				14-Aug-2013 12:08
1	Overgrown Tomb		$11.61	Land - Swamp Forest				06-Aug-2013 07:40
1	Raging Ravine		$0.40	Land				06-Aug-2013 06:30
1	Rakdos Carnarium		$0.39	Land				12-Aug-2013 04:06
1	Rootbound Crag		$0.32	Land				06-Aug-2013 07:41
1	Savage Lands		$0.76	Land				06-Aug-2013 06:25
1	Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep		$13.31	Legendary Land				06-Aug-2013 06:36
1	Shizo, Death's Storehouse		$30.16	Legendary Land				06-Aug-2013 06:35
1	Spinerock Knoll		$0.50	Land				06-Aug-2013 06:49
1	Stomping Ground		$5.19	Land - Mountain Forest				06-Aug-2013 07:35
3	Swamp		$0.07	Basic Land - Swamp				14-Aug-2013 12:00
1	Vesuva		$1.75	Land				06-Aug-2013 06:37
1	Vivid Crag		$0.74	Land				12-Aug-2013 03:36
1	Woodland Cemetery		$0.83	Land				06-Aug-2013 07:41

Sideboard - 1 cards, 1 distinct

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	Name	Ed.	Price	Type	Cost	P	T	Modified
	Name	Rarity	Price	Type	Color	P	T	Modified
Creature (1)
1	Darigaaz, the Igniter		$0.50	Legendary Creature - Dragon		6	6	14-Aug-2013 12:12

Notes

Commander: Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund / Bladewing the Risen

Comments

Nexea | 30-Aug-2013 10:43

Suggestion of some cards ATM.
Bituminous Blast
Maelstrom pulse
Diabolic revelation
Pierce | Edited 12-Aug-2013 01:16

If I were you, and I hadn't already bought all the cards for this, I would change this to a Black/Red/Green (Jund) deck. It'd be substantially cheaper, too. This deck doesn't seem to utilize much blue and white, and it will make the mana a lot easier to fix.

After taking out all the off-color dragons, the remaining choices you have are pretty solid. The only one I'd recommend pulling is Fledgling Dragon. Threshold is too unreliable.

So (not counting lands), that would be 7 cards taking out.
This deck is a pretty mana-intensive deck, so some mana-ramp to help things along would be good (more like necessary).
Excellent cards for this would be Coalition Relic, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, and Gilded Lotus.
Sol Ring costs some coin, but it would be superior to your Prismatic Lens if you want it.

Then we need your commander!
You already have Karrthus as an option. Other good choices include:
Darigaaz, the Igniter

Kresh the Bloodbraided
Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper (this guy goes well with your token sub-theme)

and Adun Oakenshield

Up to you!

Cards to consider:
Gruul War Chant
Lurking Predators
Hoarding Dragon
Steel Hellkite

Warstorm Surge
Go for the Throat
Kokusho, the Evening Star

Also, you're pretty slim on cards that cost 3 mana or less. You could get punched a bit early-game. Take a look at these. Most offer more flexibility than just optional defense.

Aether Membrane
Grinning Ignus

Magus of the Moon
Pyreheart Wolf
Radha, Heir to Keld
Rage Nimbus
Rakdos Guildmage
Soulbright Flamekin
Sprouting Thrinax
Thunderscape Battlemage
Wall of Razors
Wall of the Tanglecord
Zhur-Taa Druid
- Pierce | 12-Aug-2013 01:09
  
  Btw, you know you can have multiple basic lands, right? You should use some. They don't come in tapped, and that matters.
  
  In addition to swapping all the off-color lands (if you go Jund), I'd take out:
  Polluted Mire
  Reflecting Pool
  Slippery Karst
  Smoldering Crater
  Tranquil Thicket
  and Barren Moor
  
  I'd consider putting in:
  Command Tower
  
  Vivid Crag
  Fungal Reaches
  Mosswort Bridge
  Golgari Rot Farm
  and some basic lands!!
- - Christopher W | 12-Aug-2013 03:18
    
    I now have about 20 tabs open ready to check out all the cards you mentioned XD I'll likely follow your advice and go Jund; so I'll be looking through those with the rest of your advice in mind, adding back up to 100. Much thanks :D
  - - Pierce | 12-Aug-2013 07:25
      
      You're welcome!
      I like a lot of the changes you made.
      ...So I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you added a little too much of the new good stuff!
      
      This deck can't run on 34 lands. You need at least 37, and that isn't negotiable. I'd actually run more for better efficiency - this is one mana intensive deck.
      Sorry! I know cutting it down is tough. I'll leave that to you, though.
      
      Speaking of lands, you still have a Clifftop Retreat in there.
      And Cultivate and Kodama's Reach fetch basic lands. You should absolutely have at least 1 Forest and 2 Swamps so you can pull them.
      You should also have at least 17 green sources so you can reliably have it with 3 mana (which is when you'd "need" it for your ramp spells). You actually have 15 already, if you count the Fungal Reaches, Vivid Crag, Prismatic Lens, and Darksteel Ingot, so you're almost there.
    - - Pierce | Edited 12-Aug-2013 07:49
        
        Oh, I know I mentioned Darigaaz as a possibility, but I have to ask: is he your Commander?
        Why: if a commander deals 21 damage to an opponent over the course of the game, that opponent loses. And that's the key that makes him a good commander because he can do extra damage with his ability - particularly against lifegain control decks that like to have cards in hand. "I deal six and call blue. Oh, you have 5 in hand? That'll be 11 damage then. See you again next turn."
        
        ....but if you didn't plan him to be your commander, I'd say he's probably one of the worst (for cost) dragons in your deck. (If that helps the selection process at all!)
      - Christopher W | 12-Aug-2013 11:21
        
        I didn't even think about it; I totally threw him in because 'ooh, dragon!'; but I think I will have him as sideboard commmander, if not commander.. Haven't fully decided on that as of yet, now with Jund commitment.
      - Christopher W | 12-Aug-2013 11:23
        
        Yeah,, I decided to take a break from cuts to balance out land earlier, was getting tough.. I was aiming for 38, but 37 will do ;] I'll throw in 2 forests and a swamp, 2 if I can find an extra cut XD
      - Pierce | 12-Aug-2013 18:43
        
        So, I'm not exactly advocating this, because I actually like the token subtheme you have going on.
        But if you want to streamline the deck, taking out the token/counter subthemes will open up a lot of room.
        
        Out:
        Thopter Assembly
        Preyseizer Dragon
        Contagion Clasp
        Druidic Satchel
        
        Darksteel Reactor
        Trading Post
        Contagion Engine
        Darksteel Forge
        Parallel Lives
        Splinter Twin
        
        You'd have room to run 40 lands, which is what this deck wants, and also room for another cool dragon or cards like Darigaaz's Charm, Violent Ultimatum, and Golgari Charm. Or a boardwipe Blasphemous Act. And equipment Lightning Greaves and Darksteel Plate.
        
        But I like the token sub-theme. I'm not saying you should, just that if you're having trouble cutting it down to size, there are options.
        
        Christopher W | 14-Aug-2013 03:44
        
        I can't surrender the tokens yet.. I may end up doing some of that, but I'll see what I can manage after a couple pass-throughs; going to cap land at 38 for now.
Christopher W | 06-Aug-2013 08:15

All done.
- Pierce | 08-Aug-2013 07:14
  
  Um..... who's your Commander?
- - Christopher W | 08-Aug-2013 13:39
    
    Not sure tbh lol.. Haven't ever played EDH so not sure how the Commander interacts; but I would probably go with.. Dragonmaster Outcast, Dragonspeaker Shaman, or Scourge of Valkas, or maybe Numot..
    Scratch the first two, google says Commander needs to be Legendary XD
  - - Christopher W | 08-Aug-2013 13:46
      
      and commence color restrictions... dammit.
  - Quincy Norton | 08-Aug-2013 17:11
    
    He'd have to make it either Karthus or Bladewing. He could run Karona, the False God to mask what he was doing. Or Child of Alara as a single use board reset.

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