Christopher W's Ancient Vengeance
 
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Edge of Eternities
releases on August 1, 2025!

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Edge of Eternities
releases on August 1, 2025!

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Main Deck - 105 cards, 97 distinct
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Name  Ed. Price Type Cost P
Rarity Color
Creature (39)
1 Aether Membrane
$0.36 Creature - Wall 0
1 Balefire Dragon
$14.38 Creature - Dragon 6
1 Bladewing the Risen
$1.27 Legendary Creature - Zombie Dragon 4
1 Bladewing's Thrall
$0.18 Creature - Zombie 3
1 Bogardan Hellkite
$0.52 Creature - Dragon 5
1 Broodmate Dragon
$0.54 Creature - Dragon 4
1 Dragon Broodmother
$6.47 Creature - Dragon 4
1 Dragon Egg
$0.09 Creature - Dragon Egg 0
1 Dragonmaster Outcast
$0.48 Creature - Human Shaman 1
1 Dragonspeaker Shaman
$2.76 Creature - Human Barbarian Shaman 2
1 Ebon Dragon
$7.41 Creature - Dragon 5
1 Flameblast Dragon
$0.24 Creature - Dragon 5
1 Furyborn Hellkite
$1.19 Creature - Dragon 6
1 Hellkite Charger
$1.23 Creature - Dragon 5
1 Hellkite Igniter
$0.17 Creature - Dragon 5
1 Hellkite Overlord
$0.87 Creature - Dragon 8
1 Hellkite Tyrant
$1.19 Creature - Dragon 6
1 Hoarding Dragon
$0.19 Creature - Dragon 4
1 Imperial Hellkite
$0.39 Creature - Dragon 6
1 Kargan Dragonlord
$0.45 Creature - Human Warrior 2
1 Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
$6.16 Legendary Creature - Dragon 7
1 Kilnmouth Dragon
$0.95 Creature - Dragon 5
1 Knollspine Dragon
$0.37 Creature - Dragon 7
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
$18.27 Legendary Creature - Dragon Spirit 5
1 Mana-Charged Dragon
$1.25 Creature - Dragon 5
1 Mordant Dragon
$0.36 Creature - Dragon 5
1 Preyseizer Dragon
$0.34 Creature - Dragon 4
1 Scourge of Kher Ridges
$1.99 Creature - Dragon 6
1 Scourge of Valkas
$5.67 Creature - Dragon 4
1 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
$10.10 Legendary Creature - Phyrexian Dragon Skeleton 4
1 Slumbering Dragon
$3.82 Creature - Dragon 3
1 Soulbright Flamekin
$0.20 Creature - Elemental Shaman 2
1 Steel Hellkite
$0.28 Artifact Creature - Dragon 5
1 Thopter Assembly
$0.28 Artifact Creature - Thopter 5
1 Thundermaw Hellkite
$0.87 Creature - Dragon 5
1 Thunderscape Battlemage
$0.23 Creature - Human Wizard 2
1 Utvara Hellkite
$15.06 Creature - Dragon 6
1 Vampiric Dragon
$0.22 Creature - Vampire Dragon 5
1 Zhur-Taa Druid
$0.15 Creature - Human Druid 1
Instant (3)
1 Darigaaz's Charm
$0.26 Instant
1 Go for the Throat
$0.58 Instant
1 Golgari Charm
$0.71 Instant
Sorcery (3)
1 Cultivate
$0.64 Sorcery
1 Dragonstorm
$2.38 Sorcery
1 Kodama's Reach
$1.52 Sorcery - Arcane
Artifact (14)
1 Contagion Clasp
$0.42 Artifact
1 Contagion Engine
$4.55 Artifact
1 Darksteel Forge
$33.82 Artifact
1 Darksteel Ingot
$0.26 Artifact
1 Darksteel Plate
$4.45 Artifact - Equipment
1 Darksteel Reactor
$7.90 Artifact
1 Druidic Satchel
$0.23 Artifact
1 Gilded Lotus
$1.12 Artifact
1 Lightning Greaves
$5.52 Artifact - Equipment
1 Mimic Vat
$0.72 Artifact
1 Nim Deathmantle
$3.04 Artifact - Equipment
1 Prismatic Lens
$0.32 Artifact
1 Quicksilver Amulet
$1.18 Artifact
1 Trading Post
$0.29 Artifact
Enchantment (6)
1 Crucible of Fire
$0.92 Enchantment
1 Gruul War Chant
$0.26 Enchantment
1 Lurking Predators
$8.72 Enchantment
1 Parallel Lives
$28.85 Enchantment
1 Splinter Twin
$19.30 Enchantment - Aura
1 Warstorm Surge
$0.79 Enchantment
Planeswalker (2)
1 Sarkhan the Mad
$0.94 Legendary Planeswalker - Sarkhan
1 Sarkhan Vol
$3.20 Legendary Planeswalker - Sarkhan
Land (38)
1 Akoum Refuge
$0.20 Land
1 Blackcleave Cliffs
$1.01 Land
1 Blood Crypt
$14.85 Land - Swamp Mountain
1 Cavern of Souls
$32.99 Land
1 Clifftop Retreat
$0.52 Land
1 Command Tower
$0.64 Land
1 Copperline Gorge
$0.86 Land
1 Dragonskull Summit
$0.86 Land
3 Forest
$0.18 Basic Land - Forest
1 Forgotten Cave
$0.14 Land
1 Fungal Reaches
$0.20 Land
1 Golgari Rot Farm
$0.28 Land
1 Gruul Turf
$0.35 Land
1 Kazandu Refuge
$0.13 Land
1 Kessig Wolf Run
$0.66 Land
1 Lavaclaw Reaches
$0.52 Land
5 Mountain
N/A Basic Land - Mountain
1 Overgrown Tomb
$10.28 Land - Swamp Forest
1 Raging Ravine
$0.61 Land
1 Rakdos Carnarium
$0.31 Land
1 Rootbound Crag
$1.12 Land
1 Savage Lands
$0.77 Land
1 Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep
$12.37 Legendary Land
1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
$29.60 Legendary Land
1 Spinerock Knoll
$0.45 Land
1 Stomping Ground
$6.03 Land - Mountain Forest
3 Swamp
$0.20 Basic Land - Swamp
1 Vesuva
$3.09 Land
1 Vivid Crag
$0.58 Land
1 Woodland Cemetery
$0.59 Land
Sideboard - 1 cards, 1 distinct
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Creature (1)
1 Darigaaz, the Igniter
$0.51 Legendary Creature - Dragon 6

Notes
 
Commander: Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund / Bladewing the Risen
Comments
  • Nexea | 30-Aug-2013 10:43
    Suggestion of some cards ATM.
    Bituminous Blast
    Maelstrom pulse
    Diabolic revelation
  • Pierce | Edited 12-Aug-2013 01:16
    If I were you, and I hadn't already bought all the cards for this, I would change this to a Black/Red/Green (Jund) deck. It'd be substantially cheaper, too. This deck doesn't seem to utilize much blue and white, and it will make the mana a lot easier to fix.


    After taking out all the off-color dragons, the remaining choices you have are pretty solid. The only one I'd recommend pulling is Fledgling Dragon. Threshold is too unreliable.


    So (not counting lands), that would be 7 cards taking out.
    This deck is a pretty mana-intensive deck, so some mana-ramp to help things along would be good (more like necessary).
    Excellent cards for this would be Coalition Relic, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, and Gilded Lotus.
    Sol Ring costs some coin, but it would be superior to your Prismatic Lens if you want it.


    Then we need your commander!
    You already have Karrthus as an option. Other good choices include:
    Darigaaz, the Igniter

    Kresh the Bloodbraided
    Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper (this guy goes well with your token sub-theme)

    and Adun Oakenshield

    Up to you!



    Cards to consider:
    Gruul War Chant
    Lurking Predators
    Hoarding Dragon
    Steel Hellkite

    Warstorm Surge
    Go for the Throat
    Kokusho, the Evening Star



    Also, you're pretty slim on cards that cost 3 mana or less. You could get punched a bit early-game. Take a look at these. Most offer more flexibility than just optional defense.

    Aether Membrane
    Grinning Ignus

    Magus of the Moon
    Pyreheart Wolf
    Radha, Heir to Keld
    Rage Nimbus
    Rakdos Guildmage
    Soulbright Flamekin
    Sprouting Thrinax
    Thunderscape Battlemage
    Wall of Razors
    Wall of the Tanglecord
    Zhur-Taa Druid
    • Pierce | 12-Aug-2013 01:09
      Btw, you know you can have multiple basic lands, right? You should use some. They don't come in tapped, and that matters.


      In addition to swapping all the off-color lands (if you go Jund), I'd take out:
      Polluted Mire
      Reflecting Pool
      Slippery Karst
      Smoldering Crater
      Tranquil Thicket
      and Barren Moor


      I'd consider putting in:
      Command Tower

      Vivid Crag
      Fungal Reaches
      Mosswort Bridge
      Golgari Rot Farm
      and some basic lands!!
      • Christopher W | 12-Aug-2013 03:18
        I now have about 20 tabs open ready to check out all the cards you mentioned XD I'll likely follow your advice and go Jund; so I'll be looking through those with the rest of your advice in mind, adding back up to 100. Much thanks :D
        • Pierce | 12-Aug-2013 07:25
          You're welcome!
          I like a lot of the changes you made.
          ...So I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you added a little too much of the new good stuff!


          This deck can't run on 34 lands. You need at least 37, and that isn't negotiable. I'd actually run more for better efficiency - this is one mana intensive deck.
          Sorry! I know cutting it down is tough. I'll leave that to you, though.


          Speaking of lands, you still have a Clifftop Retreat in there.
          And Cultivate and Kodama's Reach fetch basic lands. You should absolutely have at least 1 Forest and 2 Swamps so you can pull them.
          You should also have at least 17 green sources so you can reliably have it with 3 mana (which is when you'd "need" it for your ramp spells). You actually have 15 already, if you count the Fungal Reaches, Vivid Crag, Prismatic Lens, and Darksteel Ingot, so you're almost there.
          • Pierce | Edited 12-Aug-2013 07:49
            Oh, I know I mentioned Darigaaz as a possibility, but I have to ask: is he your Commander?
            Why: if a commander deals 21 damage to an opponent over the course of the game, that opponent loses. And that's the key that makes him a good commander because he can do extra damage with his ability - particularly against lifegain control decks that like to have cards in hand. "I deal six and call blue. Oh, you have 5 in hand? That'll be 11 damage then. See you again next turn."


            ....but if you didn't plan him to be your commander, I'd say he's probably one of the worst (for cost) dragons in your deck. (If that helps the selection process at all!)
            • Christopher W | 12-Aug-2013 11:21
              I didn't even think about it; I totally threw him in because 'ooh, dragon!'; but I think I will have him as sideboard commmander, if not commander.. Haven't fully decided on that as of yet, now with Jund commitment.
          • Christopher W | 12-Aug-2013 11:23
            Yeah,, I decided to take a break from cuts to balance out land earlier, was getting tough.. I was aiming for 38, but 37 will do ;] I'll throw in 2 forests and a swamp, 2 if I can find an extra cut XD 
            • Pierce | 12-Aug-2013 18:43
              So, I'm not exactly advocating this, because I actually like the token subtheme you have going on.
              But if you want to streamline the deck, taking out the token/counter subthemes will open up a lot of room.


              Out:
              Thopter Assembly
              Preyseizer Dragon
              Contagion Clasp
              Druidic Satchel

              Darksteel Reactor
              Trading Post
              Contagion Engine
              Darksteel Forge
              Parallel Lives
              Splinter Twin


              You'd have room to run 40 lands, which is what this deck wants, and also room for another cool dragon or cards like Darigaaz's Charm, Violent Ultimatum, and Golgari Charm. Or a boardwipe Blasphemous Act. And equipment Lightning Greaves and Darksteel Plate.



              But I like the token sub-theme. I'm not saying you should, just that if you're having trouble cutting it down to size, there are options.
              • Christopher W | 14-Aug-2013 03:44
                I can't surrender the tokens yet.. I may end up doing some of that, but I'll see what I can manage after a couple pass-throughs; going to cap land at 38 for now.
  • Christopher W | 06-Aug-2013 08:15
    All done.
    • Pierce | 08-Aug-2013 07:14
      Um..... who's your Commander?
      • Christopher W | 08-Aug-2013 13:39
        Not sure tbh lol.. Haven't ever played EDH so not sure how the Commander interacts; but I would probably go with.. Dragonmaster Outcast, Dragonspeaker Shaman, or Scourge of Valkas, or maybe Numot..
        Scratch the first two, google says Commander needs to be Legendary XD
        • Christopher W | 08-Aug-2013 13:46
          and commence color restrictions... dammit.
      • Quincy Norton | 08-Aug-2013 17:11
        He'd have to make it either Karthus or Bladewing. He could run Karona, the False God to mask what he was doing. Or Child of Alara as a single use board reset. 
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