Virgo wrote:Entropy wrote:If you flip up an opponent's unit with Rip Dere 'Eads Off, it is not sacrificed at the end of the turn (based on the Bathe in Blood Q/A you quoted) due to Rip's effect.
What? I'm pretty sure it is sacrificed at the end of the turn, because that is the effect of the Rip Dere 'Eads Off! It's not like you're sacrificing something instead of your opponent.
Entropy wrote:In the 2 Hero example though, he is not sacrificing your unit. He is causing an illegal play state that can only be resolved by you sacrificing the unit you played from your hand.
What numer two. I taught you sacrifice hero that caused the illegal state to occur (which is the one flipped over by RDEO). If it was the other way round you could "snipe" enemy's heroes by flipping over developments. The hero played from hand leaves play and then the one from rip gets sacrificed.
1. I would have thought the same thing as you, but the ruling for Bathe in Blood is a pretty clear precedent in my opinion.
2. The example I am referring to here is where someone flips the development with Rip in response to you playing a Hero (which is the example from the FAQ). In that case, the development hero comes in first, and the one from hand comes in second (making it the hero that caused the illegal state to occur). If you already have the Hero in play, then flip a copy with Rip, you are right that it would not allow you to snipe the Hero from play.
As DaxYell pointed out, most sacrifice cards are worded as "opponent/target player must sacrifice". Easy Pickens just says "must be sacrificed" which still allows its owner to do the sacrificing. Rip and Bathe both just say "sacrifice it", which means that as the person playing the effect, you are doing the sacrificing. But you can't, since its not your unit.