1 Topic by MidNight12

(0 replies, posted in Buying & Selling Cards)

Selling 2x Modern Event Deck (sealed), asking price = $90.00/each without shipping, paypal only as gift to avoid fee. I am willing to pay for half of the shipping cost (ups w/tracking), no international

Price is negotiable, willing to trade for value listed at TCG-lowest NM excluding shipping price

Makes sense since I am selling product at lower price, and with the money, obviously I am going to buy at TCG lowest price at NM

Local: I would like to do the transaction in person (if possible) if you lived around my city, I don't mind driving a few extra miles to meet-up destination like a local hobby shops.

PM if you have interest, I will take no longer than 3 days to respond back. If you are in a hurry, please note it and I will reply back as soon as possible.

Modern Event Deck: deck list + dice + sleeves + the box

http://i.imgur.com/eCVN4T1.jpg

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2 Topic by MidNight12

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I am currently in a trade, and this guy (not naming yet) is not sending like he said he would.
When our trade was agree upon he said he'll send soon (monday), and its been 5 days he still hasn't send.

There was some activities and responds he is giving me, raising red flags:
1) he claims one of the cards i ask for apparently disappear and that was his reason for delaying his send (wednesday). I checked his inventory, he had 3 listed. he couldn't send me his other ones?
2) the next day (thursday) he clear out his inventory and it startle me, so i told him about it. he re-listed them and told me he's updating.
3) i checked his current trade that he has going on where all his others end have send, but him.
4) i also notice one of his current trade he got scammed, this is making me think he is doing it to others.

lucky i have tracking, and i called the post office to hold my mail before it got to him. i have monday to fill out this paper for a recall mail and have it send back to me. i haven't told him about my action yet because i dont want to ruin our trade, he did made over 100 trade so im giving him the benefit of the doubt. our last communication was that he told me he'll have it mail out friday, and nothing yet.

i know this doesn't consider a BTR yet since it haven't been 7 days with no communication.
i need some advice here, should i let my mail go through and potentially lose my cards and deal with filing mail fraud? does filing mail fraud even help get your cards back? i asking cause i never been in that situation and i'm curious about it. what would you guys do in this situation? i am unease.

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3 Reply by MidNight12

(13 replies, posted in Announcements)

hall of triumph promo seem to be missing

know this is off topic, but will there be update on the conspiracy expansion soon?

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4 Reply by MidNight12

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jassi007 wrote:
AmarusCameron wrote:

I think you are forgetting the part where Midnight threatened JoeCat. Not cool.

Also, I think a post on here asking for help (if you don't know what the BTR forum is) is not an issue.

I didn't miss it.  It was stupid on his part to say it, but he is frustrated about being out $50 in a trade. I can understand that. Everyone who thinks he is really going to drive 6 hours to yell at a guy about a magic card raise their hands. I think posting one side of a story and letting the other person be tried in the court of public opinion is a problem. Let the mods sort this out. Look at the feedbacks. Joe has 12 trades and 2 neutrals, midnight has 88 and no neutral or negative. Which trader is the one that other people have had problems with and which one hasn't had one dissatisfied trade partner until now?

Thank you for notifying me about this, and being understanding.
Looks like you are the only person who has some senses around here.

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5 Reply by MidNight12

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Vincentarasin wrote:
joecat70 wrote:

Also can I do anything about him threatening to show up at my door?

Not, specifically.

Now, there are certain cases (like what I did with an asshat detailed here: http://deckbox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8699) where you can take some action.

Sadly this kid ended up escorted out of the very event he threatened to find me at.

But legally? Nah, not really. It's technically considered a threat, but the honest answer is the cops won't do anything *until* its too late.

Mods can, however, take action. It won't get your LOTV back though without filing mail fraud. I'd personally do it.


replying back to Vincentarasin (a profile pic. of him holding a sparkler), AmarusCameron, UnstableFlux, and Chase regarding about this so called "threat".

I read your http://deckbox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8699%29

Vincentarasin    Actually thats just being petty, as it says nothing of the sort.    21:26
Gizzet    i only wish to hear from you again if you decide to come to the vegas gp so i can meet you in person.    23:37
Vincentarasin    You're way out of line buddy. I'll see about fixing that feedback on my end.    23:49

I agree with you, I see the threat there. “come to the vegas gp so i can meet you in person”. There’s action and he implied “you” as an indication in that sentence. That wasn’t smart of him.

Here mine:
http://deckbox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=11434

How did I threaten him, enlighten me?
Is it because I mention about going fishing with some buddy and I didn't invited him? If that's threaten, then fine. He's welcome to fish, but I'm not going to let him borrow my fishing pole cause I don't think I'll get it back.

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6 Reply by MidNight12

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anubomb wrote:

This is curious. Midnight also claims to have not received your cards according to the trade it seems like. He has had 88 completed trades on this site with 100% rating. You've had 9, and have cancelled 2 trades after accepting them.

My point is that let's not all go to the side of this dude based on his side of the story. He could just be getting the jump on midnight for the inevitable dispute involving mods.

Edit: Scratch that. From midnight's ongoing trades, it seems like he's changed his honest ways and wants to scam as much value as he can before his account's shut down. We probably need to get a mod involved immediately so more people aren't scammed.

Also I can't stress enough using their personal information against them. By that I don't mean putting it online, but getting the cops involved and getting the real person behind the online username into trouble. People do online scams because it doesn't impact their real life. Once that's threatened, however little, they will usually get scared.

replying back to anubomb, UnstableFlux and AmarusCameron regarding about me going on a trade spree.

If this was my last “horah”, I think I would have gone for something of a higher value. I didn’t’ bait people by offering liliana or force of will and not complete the trade. That would be considering as scamming, see the difference?

Take a closer look at the mass “ongoing” trade that I initiated. They are fair-trade, and they are at least average of $10 in value.

Most of my trade currently completed and initiating are for shock lands. I plan to take a break from competitive magic when my semester begins, so I can focus mainly on my study because it is gonna be my last semester (hopefully). I believe shock lands price will go up, and have a closer gap value with the older version. When I get back to magic, I plan to trade away my extra for cards I’ll be missing out on.

There’s my explanation.

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7 Reply by MidNight12

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Wow... this guy, joecat70

First off people, I'm the one who is being scam.
I initiated the trade with him on June 25.
I ignored the fact that he had zero feedback from chalabi. I figured he is still trust-able even though he had no negative feedback, some positive feedback, and thinking nothing could go wrong since I haven't had any bad experience so far... until now

The trade was my Voice of Resurgence and Parallel Lives for his Liliana of the Veil and Stomping Ground.
The Voice of Resurgence was valued at $50 at the time, it was an even trade when I initiated the trade. I only had one copy, and getting a play set seems very expensive. I had no desire in keeping one copy, so I decided to trade it out a.s.a.p. while it was still in demand for something useful. I believe it's price will drop in the future (which it did).

My experience in long-term investment (those trade were even and fair at that time), for example:
3 Angel of Serenity for 3 Snapcaster Mage, and now http://deckbox.org/trades/38843?s=21519
Thundermaw Hellkite for Wooded Foothills, and now http://deckbox.org/trades/46030?s=21519

Im not prefect, I do make bad calls: deathrite shaman, sphinx revelation, Fetid Heath, etc... sigh, that's the beauty in magic.

Anyways, before I get all side track... bare with me here, I do have a point.

When the trade was finalized, I mail mines out on June 28 (also with other trade I had going on). On the same day, his trade status marked as deliver.

After 2 weeks of not seeing his mail, I got worried and p.m. him.

MidNight12    its been two week, its should take this long for mailing. especially you aren't that far from me.    12 Jul
MidNight12    it will only take me 6 hr to come get to you if i've known this trade will take this long to complete    12 Jul
joecat70    I don't have another lily and I have not recieved the cards    12 Jul

I thought to myself maybe it was the 4th of July holiday the could of push our mail back, but my other trade I mail out on the same day were completed. Still I gave him the benefit of the doubt, that maybe he lived in the middle of no where like in a farm or something and the mail man is having trouble finding the location. Then again, I lived in the city.

I ran out of patience after a month, it was getting ridiculous and p.m. him again.

Notice within that month NOT ONCE he have question or have any concern about this trade until I mention it. This guy obviously back out on this trade and act like he's the victim, that's my point.

here's our complete entire convo.:
MidNight12    i notice you have interest in these cards, let me know what you think about this trade    24 Jun
joecat70    I'm good with this, I do have to double check on the fiend hunter,.    24 Jun
MidNight12    so... do u have yhe foil fiend Hunter?    24 Jun
joecat70    no not anymore.    25 Jun
MidNight12    hows this?    25 Jun
MidNight12    its been two week, its should take this long for mailing. especially you aren't that far from me.    12 Jul
MidNight12    it will only take me 6 hr to come get to you if i've known this trade will take this long to complete    12 Jul
joecat70    I don't have another lily and I have not recieved the cards    12 Jul
joecat70    I am starting to have doubts that you shipped the cards, I am going to talk to the post office and find out where my cards ended up.    17 Jul
MidNight12    ill go friday during lunch break    18 Jul
MidNight12    well?    22 Jul
joecat70    they have no idea where it is.    23 Jul
MidNight12    alright joe, i send my cards for sure. all my trades went through fine except for yours. a trade from CA i made, completed in a week. its been a month and i haven't even gotten your mail, funny. i also notice your trade with Barcod3 haven't been completed since july 7th. you dont seem worry and not much complain coming from you, im speculating you recieve my card already.    23 Jul
MidNight12    if you have no interest in completing this trade, i would like you to either send back my cards or pay through paypal for my lost.    23 Jul
joecat70    will you be paying for my cards? I am out a lilliana. Barcode hasn't been online since the 14th so that isn't a liable excuse.    23 Jul
MidNight12    so this is the game you want to play. i go to wisconsin with some buddy fishing frequently, 6 hour aint a far drive. it will be an annual thing    23 Jul
joecat70    So you will pay me then?    23 Jul
joecat70    I am pissed now, I don't like threats. I want my lili back    23 Jul
joecat70    look at that barcode was on vacation, he had no problem getting his cards! Why don't you just ship my lili back.

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