NullParameter wrote:TyWooOneTime wrote:I'm with imsully on Detain as being weak relative to the other mechanics thus far. I mean have you seen overload? Not only has Mizzium Mortars made Searing Spear completely worthless, but the fact that either it or Street Spasm can produce Bonfire of the Damned results for just a few more mana... include Goblin Electromancer to reduce the cost of those spells, and you can see where an entire deck of Bonfire effects isn't too far off (although they likely made overload to control the demand for bonfires).
I'd disagree. First off, Searing Spear can target a player, while Mizzium Mortars cannot, which can be a huge advantage in lots of situations. And, while I agree that Overload is amazing, I don't think that the additional 6 mana required to utilize it on the Mortars will be used all that often in constructed play.
Detain can lock down blockers for a big attack, or even a planeswalker before it can go ultimate. If some Golgari is using a bunch of abilities on creatures like Jarad, then they could possibly be hosed for the rest of the game if you are able to keep detaining the creatures that they're depending on.
I'll agree that the mechanic itself isn't as immediately changing of the board state, that doesn't mean that it can't make a huge impact.
I don't think that the revealed overload cards are nearly as good as they seem, I mean think about facing a Mana Dork deck with either overload or a Bonfire, at worst bonfire for 3 kills every mana dork but it costs tons to kill all of them with overload, I think it's a really cool idea and I'm pretty excited about it for my EDH decks but for standard constructed, I don't see it making much of a splash without some sort of mythic one of that's actually good (Like Huntmaster for werewolves)
Detain however I'll stick to my original statement, the cards that use it just don't do enough, Tamiyo's +1 is good because it's repeatable without a negative consequence, that's when this type of ability is good (See frost titan) however I'm not sure if something that's 7 cmc across 2 colors without having a huge body is going to be playable especially since frost titan wasn't even played that much.
I personally like unleash, it's a perfect fit for the Rakdos guild's aggro, and black's sacrifice for power, you risk yourself for the chance to hurt your opponent more, my only issue is that none of the cards I see are that impressive
As a side note what are people's fav cards that are spoiled, Mine are the Hypersonic Dragon, Rakdos's Return, and Niv-Mizzet Dracogenious and the most disappointing is the new Jace, I love non-standard formats which he was clearly designed for but his utter unplayability in standard bugs me a little bit.
