To the right of the deck names in the lefthand column, I think it could be helpful to list the mana symbols of the colors that deck represents (similar to how they are listed at the top of the page once you click into a deck). I've often found myself with a particular card I want to find a place for somewhere, but without a specific idea for which deck. Being able to quickly identify the few decks it might qualify for via mana symbols would help save time.

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(10 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

Search engine indexing maybe?

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(10 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

I've used the site for a few months and have seen this very sporadically.

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(4 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Here is the explanation for why they banned them.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/a … ature/161b

Heh, I know the feeling. :-) I have also been frustrated at the time wasted figuring out card prices to see if a trade is worthwhile only to have it never be acknowledged. I just wouldn't have thought that emailing them first would bring about a different result. If they don't respond to the automatic "trade submitted for you" email, I wouldn't expect them to respond to a pre-trade email query either.

I don't really see a great way to fix it, though. Maybe more focus given to whether they want to trade at all when they're creating the account? Maybe some kind of ranking (separate from the good/bad trader one) so you can get a sense from other users that trying to trade with them is a waste of time?

Instead of sending e-mail, why not just set up the trade and submit it to them right away? If they're not interested, they can reject it. If they are, they can accept it or modify it and resubmit it to you.

I think both the initial state and the value over time are interesting.

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(3 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Roninlevel wrote:

so, i added kusari-gama and loxodon warhammer in my bushido deck, along with fumiko the lowblood and a assortment of other samurai creatures.

my question is, if i combine the three, have two other creatures out(1,1 and 1,1), my opponent four(2:2, 2:2, 4:2 and a 1:1), and attack with them, how much life would i get, and how much would he lose if he blocks fumiko with the 4:4, and the two others with the 2:2?

fumiko would be

3:2 + 3:0 from the hammer, plus trample and i get life for each point of damage it does + 3:3 for the three attacking creatures in bushido bonus + deals damage to all other creatures that player controls thanks to kusari gama.

= 9:5

this would kill the 4:4, giving me 4 life, and dealing 5 damage to my opponent, giving me 5 life points
first question... do the 2:2 kill my 1:1's before Fumiko kills them?

All combat damage happens at the same time (assuming first/double strike is not part of the equation). Your 1/1s will do their 1 point of damage at the same time as Fumiko doing 9 points of damage at the same time as the opponent's 2/2s do their 2 points of damage to the 1/1s.

Roninlevel wrote:

second question... do the trample effect travel with the effect

if they don't kill them and the trample effect goes with them:

my two 1:1 continues on to do 2 damage to my opponent
that means i deal 2 damage to each of them, giving me 4 life, and i do 14 damage to my opponent, giving me 14 life points
or if the trample doesn't go with it:

my two 1:1 continues on to do 2 damage to my opponent
only two damage to each, giving me four life

third question.... if the do kill them before the effect of fumiko kills them, do i damage to them in their combat phase?
meaning that they only have: 2:2, - minus 1 point from blocking my attackers, so 2:1, so fumiko only deals 1 damage to them each, giving me two life, and with the trample still there, 16 damage to my opponent,and 16 life to me
or if the trample effect doesn't go with them, only 1 damage to each giving me 2 life point.

in effect:

they kill my 1:1 before fumiko's effect kills them:

without trample: they die, i gain 2 life
with trample: they die, i gain 18 life, my opponent loses 16

they dont kill them:

without trample: they die, i gain 2 life, my opponent loses 2 points
with trample: they die, i gain 18, my opponent loses 16

And fourth and final question, is this even legal?

Neither trample nor lifelink travels with the damage dealt by the Kusari-Gama. The equipment states that when the equipped creature does damage to a blocker, the equipment also does some more damage, not the creature. If it were instead worded that the equipped creature did the damage, then lifelink would apply but trample would not. Lifelink is relevant for all damage dealt by a creature. Trample is relevant only to combat damage it deals.

The end result will be all creatures other than Fumiko will be killed, she will survive for the rest of your turn with 4 points of damage dealt to her, and you will gain 9 life. If the equipment said the equipped creature dealt the damage, everything but her would still die and you would gain 36 life (9 from combat to the 4/2 and 27 from the resulting triggered damage to the other 3 creatures).

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(6 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

You should be able to drag and drop them into and out of folders.

http://deckbox.org/mtg/Jace,%20Memory%20Adept shows that there are 11 users with Jace in their tradelists, including 1 in Atlanta. It doesn't look like they (or any of the other 10) have Liliana on their wishlist, but you can email them via their profile page http://deckbox.org/users/analogbot .

If you don't want to split and do it in just one trade, there are a couple users who have 2+ Jace's for trade.

You can see the intersection of your wishlist/tradelist with their inventory from their profile page. In the trading opportunities section, you can mouse over "Using Tradelist" and change it to "Using Inventory".

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(6 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

sebi wrote:

The trading opportunities widget on peoples' profile page was getting a bit slow in case you had a very large tradelist and wishlist, so as a temporary solution I have changed the "Worldwide" trading opportunities to "In your country". I have to think about how to make it faster before adding it back.

But while thinking about how to optimize that report I realized I'm not really sure that we do want it in its current form. So here I am asking you guys about it.  smile

I'm mostly interested in opinions from people who have traded on deckbox. Do you use the "Trading Opportunities" widget on your profile, and then look at other people's profiles to see more details? Or are you starting from a specific card you need, and look on that card's page for people who have it? Is there any information that would help you to easier find people to trade with?

I have done both, but usually I am either looking for a specific card or looking to get rid of a specific card that I know has some value. The list of users on my profile page was of limited use. It should automatically filter out all users where one side of the can get/can give table contains no cards at all.

Even when there is some overlap, it should automatically filter out users whose trade location settings don't overlap nicely with my own, e.g. all folks who are not in my area but who are set to only be interested in local trades.

Another item that would be incredibly useful is when viewing the page that lists the overlap in tradelist/wishlist to show the card prices in addition to name and quantity. It is a lot of work to open new tabs for every single card one is thinking of including in a trade. The lists should be sorted by price too, instead of the unknown sorting order that is currently used.

The trade chat panel should also send email notifications. It's too easy to not notice a new post there right now.

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(5 replies, posted in General Discussion)

This is starting to read just like a deck I have. :-) http://deckbox.org/sets/69895 (sideboard is really just a placeholder for other possible cards)

Malketh wrote:

This request has been on file for over a year. It makes me wonder if the coming soon response is just a front to placate everyone. Looking from a database stand point its a trivial matter to export data into a CSV format. I know this is coming off as a rant and i apologize for that but come on guys the way it reads in the forum is that you dont take the feature requests seriously. there was not an update in over a year and it was only updated when someone requested it a second time.

When I first found this site, I had hoped to be able to give back by helping contribute bug fixes or new features. I think it can only help an unpaid volunteer site manage the needs of a growing userbase. I was part of a fan-driven comics database site where one person basically ran things for around 15 years (most of those very stagnant). I would be sad to see the same thing happen to here as deckbox.org is off to a tremendous start.

The commander version is stored separately as http://deckbox.org/mtg/Nighteyes%20the%20Desecrator .

This is one of a handful of flip cards and split cards that are not correctly stored in the database and need to be merged. I expect problems will also appear with the Innistrad dual-sided cards.

broboris wrote:

Absoulutely wonderful site. I too would love to be able to enter all my cards on this data bast and then print it or export it to a disc or something. I have an ancient collection and working on selling it and it would be wonderful.
Does the price change when you change the version of the card  such as beta or revised etc. I notice some of the most reprinted cards in multisets seem to have the same price??  Thank you for the wonderful feature I am trying to learn>

No, there is only one price stored per card. It doesn't take different editions or special versions (foil etc.) into account.

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(12 replies, posted in Trading Post)

mylkhead wrote:

So far out of 21 trade proposals, I've only been able to complete 2. The vast majority of my proposals have been ignored by the other party.  This site has an AWESOME trade mechanic built in here, it's too bad people aren't really using it very well. If you don't want to trade, decline the offer or make a counter! 

I really don't want to have to go back to MagicTraders.com (MOTL).  It was so clunky on there and rippers were everywhere.  I hope this site starts seeing some more activity soon.

I've had a similar experience, 6 out of 44 trades completed (and hey, you were one of them). Very few of the canceled ones were because the other party actively participated and declined the trade.

I know the to-do list of things for the site is in no danger of being empty, but to help foster it as a trading site I think the following would be a good start:

  • During registration make it much more explicit that the default trading zone of "local" should be changed if you actually want to receive offers from other people. (at least I think it defaults to local and most people never consider it) Or perhaps create a new category of "not interested in trading" and require people to actively choose one of the four.

  • Filter the lists on the individual card pages and on my profile page so that users don't show up where both our trading zones don't match. It's painful to have to check user after user who has listed card X in their tradelist when the site already knows they won't want to trade with me.

  • List prices on the user pages that show the intersection of two users' wishlist and tradelist. This would save a ton of time in figuring out if a trade is even worth suggesting.

  • Put a big red icon on the site's toolbar to tell people they have a pending trade, just like the one that indicates new forum messages.

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(2 replies, posted in General Discussion)

You have to edit your profile and check off the games that you play. Until then, you won't have an inventory, be able to create decks, or anything else. I remember having that problem when I first set up my account, too.

Here is a link describing how to edit your profile if you can't find it. http://deckbox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=986

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(3 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

zarem wrote:

I would be really glad to see more operations within a single chosen set. Right now I can't, for instance, even estimate how many cards of a single set I have in my wishlist, unless I count them one by one across all pages while the filter is on. So I'd like to see the number of cards filtered besides the overall number of cards.

After filtering for the set, you can sort by the inventory column. Then you can count the pages until you hit cards that you have multiplied by the # of cards per page. That would at least be easier than counting each row while they're unsorted.

zarem wrote:

I'd love to have "set checklist" option: pre-filled full set sheet to work with. And more to that matter: it might be really easier for the guys with a LOT of cards to add, to work "inverted" - add the whole set to inventory or wherever, and then just uncheck the missing few ones, instead of painstakingly filling all in one by one (and then applying a correct set to every card added, doubling the pain!).

Auto-setting the edition for cards which have only one edition (most cards out there, I think) is on feature I've requested before. Ditto adding cards with all appropriate info for preconstructed decks, which could easily be extended to encompass adding all cards from a set.

zarem wrote:

Otherwise I'd like to say that this site is the best card inventory on the Net I found by now, great job, guys! Which means, all of the above is not mere complains but more of a desires wink

Yep, definitely a great site.

A comment on leaving feedback...

I would want a +1 to indicate that someone has successfully completed a trade and a -1 that they misled someone and acted maliciously. So that leaves 0 for all other types of behavior, but I think there are a few different gradients in that area. If someone responds quickly and is easy to deal with but a deal isn't reached I think that behavior should be rewarded in some way with positive feedback, but it shouldn't be equivalent to actually completing a trade.

There should also be some kind of "average time to respond" metric publicly visible on a user's profile page. As someone looking to set up trades, it would be very useful to know that a user has never responded to any previous trade request or that they take about a week to respond or that they are very quick to respond.

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(4 replies, posted in Trading Post)

If you're interested in trading long distance, you will probably want to change the "will trade cards" setting in your profile from Local to either My Country or Worldwide. If we had a possible trading opportunity, I would not have proposed it because of that.

When viewing a deck and choosing the menu to move a certain card to the sideboard, it adds that card to the sideboard but does not disappear the row from the deck. It does remove it from the stored version of the deck so that if the page is refreshed, it is only in the sideboard.

This is in contrast to moving a card from the sideboard to the deck, where the row on the sideboard is removed without needing to refresh the page.

In the section that lists the users who have the card in their wishlist/tradelist/inventory it would be helpful if the dropdown to select those was not close to the next/last links. Many times I move the mouse up to click on next, only to inadvertently go a little to high and automatically open the dropdown instead. Ideally the first/previous/next/last line would be at the bottom of the table and not at the top, so that it is nowhere near the dropdown.

Cancelled trades should definitely not count as completed trades. Splitting the finished trades into completed and canceled sections is a good idea.

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(4 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

unclemantis wrote:

ADMIN

Again. Do you need help?

I don't think being a dick will really endear you to the site owners. Many people have offered tech help. You can't really force them to accept your offer of help if they don't want it.