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Dlashruz - What other RTR do you have?  I'd be game to do that but there's still a discrepancy in value.

Algaco - I'm perplexed, it says you have a Vraska for trade but also want three more.  I have one for trade and that would cover Trostani, the Steam Vents, and then something else.  I could also toss in a Jarad and we could figure out a 3rd $10 card.

I'll update my inventory today but if you guys could give me some thoughts on what other RTR you have or what else is possible here, I'd be happy to get things moving.

If either of you has a Deathrite Shaman I'm also interested in picking one of those up.

So here's a second take on the idea now that I've seen how nasty Growing Ranks can be in actual gameplay.

http://deckbox.org/sets/239316

Now the tokens aren't tied to a single type, I'm dropping centaurs, knights, spirits, wurms, and beasts.  I have almost everything here and hope to start playtesting soon.  I'm open to thoughts on this newer version, but I'll start playtesting it soon and will let you guys know how it works.

It just struck me that Jarad is an Elf and the poor Archdruids were reprinted in M13 with no real supporting elves to speak of.  I certainly wouldn't complain about having a 3/3 Elvish Visionary that I can pump one more to a 4/4, give intimidate to (thanks Korozda Guildmage) and then sack after combat, netting me eight damage for six mana and only costing a visionary (who is expendable after his ETB resolves anyway).

But you can apparently trade the die from them for like $6-8 each... FOR DICE!

I think they're valued somewhere between $25 and $30 and the stores will likely make them available this week once the official release takes place.

So I'm admittedly not seeing where Pack Rat really fits in here.  Sure he could pump out some more rats, but really, you're working with much bigger creatures to sack.  He's a monster if you build an all rat deck or work him with populate, but in this context, I'm not seeing his use... so that's 4 cards you can stand to lose.

Second, you're using 2x Traitorous Instinct, but you could just as easily use Mark of Mutiny - it still takes a creature, sure it only pumps one, but it also costs three rather than four (always a plus).  Act of Treason is another alternative at three CMC.

Third, I wouldn't stress Treacherous Pit-Dweller here.  Not only does he require several pieces that don't really fit the theme of the deck to keep him from screwing you over, but he wouldn't be an ideal target to sack because you would NEED a means to exile him from the graveyard before undying resolves.  Why make a move conditional if you don't have to?  If you drop him, and Vile Rebirth that makes 8 more cards you can lose - we're already down to 67.

Fourth, as much as Rancor rocks it's still not really fitting the scheme here.  Sure, you pump your creature an added two before you sack and do damage, only to get the enchantment back, but you're unlikely to attack with the creatures with Rancor. Even if you did, Cryptborn Horror already has trample, Jarad isn't supposed to attack, Desecration Demon already has flying, and Hellhole Flailer already unleashes and can sack to himself.  I also envision you getting more bang out of Rush of Blood or Auger Spree but if you're wanting to keep your CMC down, I would suggest dropping one or both of those in place of at least one more Rancor - I think of them as being an all or nothing card in this design.  That's a net of two more cards if you increase Rancor and drop the others or drop Rancor and leave the others - 65.

Fifth, I can see using Cremate for easy card draw and Grisly Salvage to help pull lands or creatures, but 4x Jarad's Orders?  You could easily drop to 2x of the Orders and add one (or more) Grisly Salvage - remember that you can pull Jarad out of the graveyard if the Salvage drops him.  But outside of that, what if the salvage forces you to dump something really good?  As a possible option, Treasured Find won several games for me at pre-release.  You could keep it in mind, but don't add it unless you really need to.  so dropping 2x Orders but adding 1x Salvage puts you at 64 now.

Personally I'd make up those last four cards by dropping 2x Jarad and 2x Cryptborn Horror.  For Jarad, you don't want to be sitting on an extra one or two of him in your hand, especially when you can dump lands to get him back in a pinch.  For the Horror, in a turn when you don't end up hurting them (which should be few and far between here) he's a totally worthless creature that would come in as a 0/0.  Since he could be great, keep the 2x, but for every time he could be a beast you'll likely have a time he will be useless.  Those last four and you're at 60.

BAM!

That aside, I think a deck like this SCREAMS for Death's Presence - I know it's expensive, but man, then those sacks just get bigger and bigger and bigger.

Lastly, I'm not seeing any removal beyond taking their creatures and sacking them or Auger Spree.  This could be a problem.
Best luck!

Thanks for the input... it's a meeting of the moderators in here .

The rationale for Seller of Songbirds is to provide more 1/1 flying tokens and a chump blocker.  Perhaps not the best option, but it certainly doesn't hurt the budget (I already have four of them ).  But I could definitely see where they could give way to 2x more Doomed Traveler.  That would net me -2 cards.  Potentially a good call.

I could also see siding the smiter, but man, even without fitting the scheme, a 4/4 that can't be countered for three that is free if they make you discard?  I mean c'mon.  That thing seems like it should be in ANY green/white deck, regardless.  If nothing else it demands attention.

You suggested cutting Call of the Conclave in place of a 2/2 vigilant knight.  Is he a token?  Which knight are you referring to?  I'm definitely on board for vigilance.  But I'm hesitant to drop them because Electrickery, Izzet Staticaster or Detention Sphere become complete board wipes if all I have are spirit tokens.  At least the centaurs provide another type of token to at least partially cover my ass.  I'm thinking even Mayor of Avabruck could be useful to pump up my normal humans and otherwise plop out some wolf tokens.  But it's just a thought.

For the splashing black, I really think that strategy will be much more viable when Orzhov and Gatecrash hit.  Also, I'm not looking to break the bank here picking up Sorin or 4x Lingering Souls.

Personally, I see Trostani being weaker than Jarad and Rakdos, but not any worse than Isperia or Niv 2.0.  You spend three and can create another creature in their end step and also gain life for each creature that enters the battlefield?  I certainly wouldn't complain about that.

Definitely some good ideas - too bad the budget has to cut in to the ideal decks.

I might just be interested in said Nivmagus Elemental to pair with the one I pulled (he's lonely).  I'll look and see if I have anything you want.

I have the Supreme Verdict and would possibly be interested in 2-3 Predator Oozes.  But I go by TGC Low prices, so that would mean all three of them.

Let me know if you're interested.

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