Previewing the next "2.0" release of deckbox (Page 2 of 3)

The MtG standard deck validator is still flagging decks larger than 72 cards as invalid:

"This is an incomplete  Modern deck. It is not listed in the decks section and does not count towards the total decks count. A complete MtG deck contains either between 60 and 70 cards or exactly 100 (for EDH)" (emphasis added)

I'm assuming the same warning appears for any of the other formats (other than EDH) that are larger than 70 cards.

There is no upward limit on the number of cards in a MtG deck.  In fact, some win conditions (e.g., Battle of Wits) require a player to have larger libraries.

First off, all other trading sites fail in comparison to what you can do and accomplish in trading. I go to other sites and each time I just say to myself "wheres the lists that compare what we both want?" I mean aside from the larger community (only because deckbox hasnt been around as long) I personally see no reason to try any where else to trade.

With that said, something that would be nice which I know helps me when Im looking for a card on my wishlist, is to hover over the little person icon that tells when a person was last online or is currently online. However it only gives the day and month they were last online, it doesnt give the year. So its hard to tell exactly how long someone has been inactive. I see it all the time (espically in new users "current trades") where they offer trades to people that havent been online in 6-8 months. Or if todays date is 12/4 for example, and a user was online 11/29 of LAST year, you might think that they were online last week when its been over a year and week. Im sure if anything this a just a small fix that can be done, its just 1 one that I though about when reading the new trading policies...

Keep up the AMAZING WORK!

I also really miss the two column mode.  I am very quick at arithmetic, but, alas, it is now extremely difficult to quickly eyeball if I'm going to be able to make a trade that is roughly equal.  Side-by-side was far better for that.  For me, the new interface is far worse for actually being able to conduct trades, especially when we both have more than just a couple cards that the other person needs.  I look at marumari<->codysattva (can get 73, can receive 62) and it's almost entirely impossible to do now.  Even just 15<->15 is hard to decipher. 

Bugs I am seeing:
- When I look at an individual card, it always says "Found 0 users", for all pulldown menus.

- When I look at an individual card, I also only get page 1 of 1, even though there are far more users with the cards.

- When I look at an individual card, it shows myself as having cards in my Wishlist.  I'm not sure that is necessary.  Further, for Hallowed Fountain, I show up as needing 1, and then needing 2, in the wishlist pulldown.  I don't need to show up there, when I'm listed above as well.

Questions / Feedback / Requests:
- Will the new version of the site fix the problem of making it very hard to find people to trade with, if you're looking for a specific card?  In the current version, if I'm looking for a card, there might be 191 users over 28 pages (so many pages!), of which 90% of them have 0 feedback or haven't logged into the site in over a year.  Sorting by distance (which is I think the current setup) is the least useful option.  It would be nice if I could simply select which countries I'll trade with (Australia, Canada, USA), have the list ignore countries not on the list, and then sort the list by either immediately local, then feedback count, or simply feedback count alone.  If that's not feasible, simply changing the order to be by feedback count would be a gigantic improvement for somebody like myself, who does a lot of mail trades.

- It would be nice if my Friends page could show me the amount of available trading opportunities I have, just like I get when I view the root of the site.

- Speaking of which, it would also be great if the "Trading opportunities" panel wasn't just hidden on the main page.  When I first started using the site, it took me over a month to find out that it even existed.  I have friends who are constantly surprised by it.  It would be so much more awesome if Trading Opportunities was simply its own page, along with "Trades", "Inventory", "Tradelist", etc.

- It would also be great if I could use TCGPlayer Low in the trade itself, where everybody could see.  The average is frequently terrible, especially for cards that are dropping in value, such as when they recently rotate.  Right now, if I set my preferences to TCGPlayer low, in an individual trade, it shows me the low price and my trading partner their preference, which is usually the average price.  Further, the totals get all screwed up.  Almost all my local trades are done by TCG low, because it's far more representative of what we would actually pay.

- Since so many people only want to trade Legacy<->Legacy or Standard<->Standard, it would be nice to have an option, when viewing a trader, to "Only show standard legal cards" and to "Hide all standard legal cards".

Whew!  I'll have more feedback later, but now I must get back to work! 

Last edited by marumari (2012-12-04 23:05:25)

Question, Sebi: Will the site be taken offline in the hours leading up to the crossover, to make sure we aren't entering/changing things that won't make the transition?

Yes, the problem exists, I've experienced the same stuff.

And another one thing (don't really know whether to post it here or in Site feedback and discussions). Would be great to have a possibility to create folders inside Inventory just as we can do in Decks. Together with working Spoiler View that would make collectioners' life easier: I'd like to divide cards I collect (now I'm trying to collect full sets of Classic Six and Seventh Editions) from cards I use to play, and Deck-like folders would be great thing.

I didn't see this posted yet, so sorry if it was.

I can't log in with my user to the alpha site in IE9. It just reloads the page after using the login box. Works fine in FF.

Sebi,
Been playing around on the alpha site.  I won't post anything more than Thanks.  I can see the effort and it looks like every little complaint I had has been addressed, even some I never noticed   The site has come a long way in 3 years.  Now where is that donate button?

+111

I just wiped my inventory in the Alpha, so as to add some cards I'm considering in a local trade--a quick way to see the by-edition value.  Anyway, while doing so, I noticed something.  I'm a heavy keyboard user.  Once entering data, I don't use the mouse unless absolutely necessary.  In the current (live) system, I can type a name, tab to select a name (once matched to the typed text), and then can tab to a quantity field.  In the new (alpha) system, it appears that the only way to change quantities while adding a card is to manually change it--as soon as I tab to select the identified card name, one of that card is added to my inventory.

I don't know where everyone else stands, but this one is a bit of a step backwards for me. I often am entering more than one copy of a card at a given time.  Am I the only one who uses the current system this way?

<Q> What happened to the option to see the cards in the order of the most recently entered when adding cards to inventory? I like the option, especially when adding lots of cards.

After typing part of a card's name, pressing tab or enter adds one to your inventory. If you then TAB again, write a number in the box and ENTER, you get the same effect as we had on live.

The thing is... I kept going back and forth on that add widget, I think I implemented it 4 times from scratch . It's still I think not perfect and a bit confusing for new people so your feedback on it is very important.

The reason I would not have an extra quantity input is that I felt it makes it even more cluttered, as it already has a lot of stuff going on in it, with all the default inputs and so on.

By all means, I'd love to hear what people think is still not good enough usability wise with it, or even general thoughts and impressions about how it "feels" to use.