426

(3 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

Well, I learned the hard way.... by experimentation. Haha. That's the sort of in-depth post that I'm always happy to come across. So I'm glad to return the favor when I can. smile

+1 Feature request

I love both the idea of being able to see a list of decks that you can build with the cards you have, as well as seeing the percent of a deck you own while viewing it.

I feel that the two aspects of the feature could be intertwined, such that you could actually get a list of decks for which the owned percentage is over a certain threshold (e.g. viewing all decks that I own 90% or more of).

A thought on the percentage -- I feel basic lands shouldn't be included in the calculations. So say there's a deck with 20 basics and 40 other cards, and I own 30 of those other 40, it should show me as owning 75% of that deck (30 out of 40), rather than 50% (if I don't include basic lands in my inventory -- 30 out of 60) or 83.3% (if I DO include basics in my inventory -- 50 out of 60). This will be more accurate overall for most people's needs.

428

(3 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

You can't do this via the Deckbox interface, except when you're first adding the cards (you can Add From List with the Default Values set for condition).

The easiest way to do it with an existing inventory is by editing the CSV file and replacing your inventory with it. That's the short version, for the more tech-savvy.


For anyone who might want more steps, do the following:

  1. Export your inventory to a CSV file (under Inventory > Tools > Export).

  2. Copy the exported file (just in case something goes wrong, then you can restore your inventory from the original export).

  3. Open the copied CSV file in Excel.

  4. Turn on Filter from the Data tab in the ribbon (or right click on a column heading to filter).

  5. Filter/sort as needed to group the desired subset of cards together.

  6. Mass-apply the new condition:

    1. Select all of the Condition column cells for the cards you want to change

    2. Press the F2 key

    3. Delete the current condition

    4. Type in the new condition

    5. Press the keys Ctrl+Enter -- this should fill the entire selection

  7. Save. Excel will ask if you're sure you want to save in that format -- click Yes.

  8. Close Excel. Excel will ask if you want to save first -- click Don't Save. The file successfully saved in the previous step. Trust me. smile

  9. Delete your current inventory on Deckbox (under Tools > Delete).

  10. Upload your edited inventory via the Add From CSV File option.


Note 1: Ensure you type the correct condition, watching for spelling. An unrecognized condition is the easiest way to receive an error. For instance, you have to type "Good (Lightly Played)", not just "Good" or "Lightly Played".

Note 2: If you encounter some other error when adding from the edited CSV file, don't fret. Step 1 -- add your inventory back from the unedited CSV file (the originally exported file). Step 2 -- ask the community for assistance!

Note 3: Mobile users -- I've had issues trying to edit CSV files in the various mobile versions of Excel. Deckbox doesn't like the resulting file. I think the apps introduce some non-CSV file data to the file that throws Deckbox's importer off. I'd stick with Excel if possible.

Note 4: There are dedicated CSV editors, and some people would tell you to avoid using Excel. However, I have never encountered an issue with Excel, as long as I only use CSV files originally exported from Deckbox (as opposed to creating my own CSV file), and as long as I save the file as described above. Don't "Save As" to a new CSV file.

429

(6 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

Of course, if all your MTGO cards have paper Magic equivalents, then you could always juat create an inventory simply for personal tracking purposes. Unfortunately, since MTGO isn't actually supported, you obviously wouldn't be able to list any of the cards for trade, and won't be able to get accurate pricing info.

The other limitation is that Deckbox doesn't support multiple, distinct inventories under one account. You would have to create a separate account for each inventory.... which is frowned upon, since a person could conceivably abuse it to boost their trade score by "completing" trades with themselves.

But in any case, it IS partially possible, depending on what your needs are.

An oft-requested feature. smile

It's not currently possible directly from the deck page. However, if you click on a card hyperlink, it will open that card's listing page in a separate tab. This page will show you how many of each printing of that card you have in your inventory.

431

(17 replies, posted in Announcements)

How is everybody dealing with the double-faced tokens (not just in Commander 2016 but in the other products that have them)? You only have 10 physical cards, but get 20 tokens, effectively. So is it better to list just the 10 front faces in your inventory, or....?

To compound the issue, it would seem that a given front face doesn't always have the same backs. I don't know this personally, because I don't own any opened Commander 2014 - 2016 decks, but according to MTG Salvation, the"Breed Lethality" deck (for instance) contains the following tokens:

1x
FRONT - {B} 0/ Germ
BACK - {W} 1/1 Spirit with Flying

1x
FRONT - {W} 1/1 Bird with Flying
BACK - {W} 1/1 Spirit with Flying

3x
FRONT - {W} 1/1 Bird with Flying
BACK - {G} 1/1 Saproling

5x
FRONT - {G} 1/1 Saproling
BACK - {W} 1/1 Spirit with Flying

So if I were to try to list 10 tokens in my inventory by the front face, I can't just input 4x Bird tokens, because 3 of them have Saproling backs while 1 has a Spirit back. How am I to differentiate them in my inventory, since physically, the Bird/Spirit card is unique from the Bird/Saproling?

432

(113 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

oK, so I've noticed a pattern in precons (that have their own edition): basic lands are divided evenly among the available collector numbers, and if there is an uneven distribution, the greater amounts are of the lower collector number.

Example:

An edition has Plains # 77 - # 80.
A deck in that edition has 21 Plains.
There will be 6x Plains # 77 and 5x Plains # 78 - # 80.

This rule is not consistently followed. For instance, in Duel Decks: Speed vs. Cunning, there are 3x Island # 75 and # 76, but 4x Island # 77. However, all of the rest of that set follows the rule.

I have not found any other instances of this rule being broken in the 7 opened Duel Decks and 3 opened Commander decks I have. Based on this consistency, I have created CSV files for all of the Duel Decks, Commander, and PDS products. I have duly marked these CSV files as unverified.

If anyone owns these products and can confirm that the CSV files are 100% accurate, please post your confirmation below. And obviously if you find an error, let me know. smile

433

(5 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

Yes, you correctly diagnosed the root cause. I had the exact same issue, although mine resulted from me building a CSV file with duplicate entries (since I was entering separate lots into the same file). If you upload a file that has duplicates of cards already in your inventory, they combine correctly. But if you upload a file that itself contains duplicates, they will not combine.

You also would have had trouble editing those line items via the interface, and they would have made more than 30 items display on each page of results.

434

(17 replies, posted in Announcements)

RustyNails123 wrote:

I want to mass import the 5 decks into my inventory but the mass import doesn't seem like it will do it properly. It looks like the only options are to import 1 of each or 4 of each card from the set. I would like to import 1 of each deck into my inventory which will obviously have more than 1 of some cards and only 1 of others. Can this be fixed to avoid having to enter all 500 cards individually?

Currently, the easiest way to accomplish this is to copy the 5 decklists from one of many online sources, then from your Inventory, click Add Cards > Add From List, and paste the decklists. Before importing, over to the right change Edition in Default Values to Commander 2016, then import.

The only thing this method won't achieve is dividing the basic lands into each collector number. If this is important to you, you'll have to do that manually.

You'll also have to add the oversized cards separately, although you should be able to successfully use Mass Import from the Oversized Edition page.

That being said, this is a feature which I believe is very important to have. I started a feature request thread. Please feel free to contribute if you have the time!

435

(11 replies, posted in Announcements)

purvisa wrote:

The card lists are available online, and those should be easy to import in tab-delimited form using Import From List. Splitting a single deck's different collector numbers once that is done should be the work of 60 seconds.

Exactly! That's just how I was going to do it, except I was going to take the extra step of turning it into a CSV file of just that deck's contents and providing it for download. That way, in the future users can skip the trouble of searching for the deck list, copy-and-pasting it, and having to split the lands into separate collector numbers. They can simply import from a file and know everything is added correctly.

The only part I can't do is the dividing the lands up, since I don't own those decks.

436

(11 replies, posted in Announcements)

809785762464994 wrote:

Is there a way to enter the kaladesh Planeswalker decks without entering each individual card?

Unfortunately, at this time there isn't. I actually posted a feature request for this very thing.

If you would be willing to help me with the basic lands for the deck (since I probably won't buy the decks myself), then I'd be willing to create a CSV file for you. Once created, all you'll have to do is import the file, and the full deck will be added to your inventory.

What I mean by help is, please count how many of each specific collector number there is for each basic land. That is, I know there are 11x Mountain in the Chandra deck. But how many of those 11 are Mountain # 259, # 260, and # 261? And do all the basic lands have the Kaladesh expansion symbol, or do the decks contain any other expansion's basic lands?

Let me know, and I'll get it done tomorrow.

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Download CSVs
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Add preconstructed decks to your inventory quickly and easily using CSV files!


View the FULL LISTING OF PRODUCTS at MTG.PreconDB.com


Instructions: Open the above webpage, find and download the CSV for the product you want, then add it to your inventory via "Add Cards > From a CSV file". Note that this will add to your inventory rather than replace your inventory.

Contributions: Please help me build and maintain a list of CSVs. You can either create a CSV for a missing product and upload it via a comment on this thread (and then I'll get it added to the above webpage). Or you can just confirm the accuracy of the CSV files that I've created (usually only the basic land artworks need to be verified). You can find a list of unverified and missing CSVs on the webpage.

Thank Yous: Thankful for this resource and want to take a minute to let me know? You can do so heresmile



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Original Proposal
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I propose a new method of adding cards from preconstructed decks, for those of us who have the complete product and just want to add all applicable cards.

What I'd like to see as the ultimate version of this feature is the ability to add all the cards in a preconstructed sealed product to your inventory, all at once. I can see this being possible from 2 places:

  1. There would be a 5th option in the "Add Cards" area called "Add From Sealed Product", in which you can filter all the preconstructed products, select one, and add a full set of cards, as many times as you need to.


    So if you have, e.g. 2 KTK Event Decks, you could filter by product ("event deck") and/or by associated set ("Khans of Tarkir"), tap the deck to select it, then tap an "Add" button twice.


  2. If you go to the Editions page, and then go to the "Sealed products for this edition" link, each product could have a similar "Add to Inventory" button.


This is different from the already existing Edition Checklist and "Add one of each card" feature in 3 ways:

  1. Most sealed products have multiples of many cards, not just 1x, so the proposed Add Sealed feature would add the correct number of each card.

  2. Not all sealed products are its own edition. While currently I can copy and paste a decklist for a Commander or Duel Deck into the "Add From List" field and then select the appropriate edition in "Default Values", this method wouldn't work for products like event and intro decks.

  3. For collectors who are as anal as I am, the correct quantities of each basic land by collector number in the product will be added. So e.g. rather than Duel Decks: Jace vs. Vraska having simply 21 Islands, it would add 5 of Island (# 37), 4 of Island (# 38), and so on.

I have a lot of sealed preconstructed products. I want to include them in my owned cards, but I don't want to open them just to determine what set a card is from or how many of each specific printing of a basic land there is.


As a temporary solution, as well as a contribution toward the permanent solution, we could start a community effort to upload CSV files of any preconstructed products that we own and have already opened, but that we can also guarantee accuracy on (in regards to the set each card is from as well as to the quantity of each collector number). While we're waiting for the Deckbox feature, users could go to this community resource and download the needed CSV files. This collection of files will also greatly assist the Deckbox team by providing them the necessary data to implement this feature.

Thank you for your thoughts!

What about foils? I've read that exposure to the moisture in the air is going to inevitably warp foils. Do most double sleevers always sleeve their foils? Or again, only foils that are worth more than a couple dollars?

Kammikaze wrote:

I'd say <$8 for double sleeved is a pretty good deal especially with KMC sleeves.

I do realize it's not a bad price, but that's only if I buy the sleeves in bulk. I'm trying to decide if I'm going to be sleeving enough of my cards to make bulk worth it.

I've done a lot of inefficient and uneconomical card acquisition for past sets, and I want to start buying smarter. My goal is to have a playset of each common/uncommon and at least 1 of each rare and mythic (maybe 4x "bulk" rares). I am focusing on the most recent sets and all future sets -- I consider older sets a lost cause, at least for now.

Here are the methods I'm considering:

  • Complete sets: I recently discovered factory-sealed complete sets. I really like the *idea* of these -- you get exactly the number of cards you want, and they're guaranteed mint condition. I assume, though, that you pay a premium for the unopened condition and that you could get them cheaper if this doesn't matter to you? Complete sets seem to be anywhere from $100-150 for the more recent sets.

  • C/U playsets: You can easily get playsets of all commons and uncommons for a set fairly cheaply. They seem to often be around $30 or so.

  • Booster boxes: If you buy a booster box, you'll be getting ~360 commons and ~108 uncommons, so for a large set you'll be getting 3-4 of the commons and 1-2 of most uncommons. You'll get over half the rares, and 1/3 of the mythics. In a small set, you're almost guaranteed to get playsets of all the commons (6 of many), 2 of most uncommons, 1 of almost all the rares, and possibly 1/2 the mythics.

  • Singles. Obviously.

I'm trying to decide which path is the most economical, both in terms of cost as well as least over-duplication. Please help me decide.

  • Buy 1 booster box (more than one will get you too many commons), and fill out the missing pieces by buying singles.

  • Buy 4x complete commons/uncommons, and buy the rares/mythics as singles.

  • Buy 4 complete sets, factory sealed or not.

  • Buy 1 complete set, and additional complete sets of commons/uncommons to make playsets.

  • Buy the set in singles.

I assume that when it comes to commons/uncommons, buying singles will be more expensive than buying in bulk. The question is whether the complete sets are worth it. A booster box looks more attractive when it's for a small set than when it's for a large set, but for either, the ultimate cost of taking this path is harder to determine.

One consideration is that if I go with a more modular approach (so not complete sets), I don't have to buy every single card. I wouldn't be surprised if cards followed the 80/20 rule -- i.e. you can get 80% of the cards for 20% of the cost, and vice versa. Then I could choose how far above the 80% I want to spend. For instance, I like W, U, B, and G all to some extent.... but I can't stand red. I'd be perfectly fine not buying a $40 red card!

A final question: As I'm not a Standard player, I don't mind waiting to get a new set If it's worth it. Does a set's price, as a whole, drop significantly after rotating out of Standard?

Kammikaze wrote:

any card worth over $100

So do you just not worry about cheaper cards? Or do you generally not play with decks that *don't* have high-value cards in them?

(I wish I could be that kind of player! But I'm doing well if my entire DECK is worth $100, much less a single card!)

So I've recently realized I should start taking better care of my cards, and I was introduced to the idea of double sleeving, which really seems best. Based on reviews I've done, I'm going to go with the KMC Perfect Fits and KMC Hyper Matte sleeves. This is great for decks.... but my questions are:

  • When do you double sleeve? It only seems viable in decks (and binders, which I don't use). How do you keep your other cards properly protected (probably only 10% of my cards are currently in decks)?

  • Which cards do you protect? Do you put all your cards in *at least* penny sleeves, or do you just not worry about commons and only protect higher rarities? Or only cards worth a certain amount or more?

While I can get the KMC products in bulk, it's still going to cost 3.1 cents per sleeve and 7 cents per deck sleeve. At 10.1 cents per card, that's $6.06 per 60 card deck, $7.58 with a 15 card sideboard, and $10.10 per commander deck. As for all my other cards, if I put them all in sleeves, at 3.1 cents and over 10,000 cards (not counting duplicates past 4 and cards in decks)..... $310+. Ha. Yeah.

Note that I am part player, part collector. That is, I'm not a hard-core collector who'll pay $100 for a card just to complete my collection, but I'm also not a hard-core player who only keeps cards for my decks and trades/sells/trhows any other cards. So any suggestion to just cull my collection is not a helpful one, sorry.

I realize this is partly "personal preference", "depends on your budget", and the like. But I'm interested in community opinions and other people's thought processes.

442

(0 replies, posted in General Discussion)

For those of you who organize your physical collections by set, what do you do with Coldsnap? Do you place it between the Ravnica and Time Spiral blocks, ordered by release date? Or with Ice Age and Alliances?

Aesthetically, the idea of having a single set in the modern card frame amongst all the old card frames bugs me. But both for keeping the Ice Age block together and, more importantly, for keeping Coldsnap out of modern-legal cards, it makes sense to put it with the old ones.

Thoughts?