It was fine, at first, since the Mystery and List cards did initially have different-sized Planeswalker symbols. Later they started printing both with the same-sized Planeswalker symbol, making it impossible to really tell the difference if one was printed in both collections.

Personally, I gave up trying to sort them individually (aside from the play test ones) and just physically sort them with the original set they came from now.

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(7 replies, posted in Announcements)

As someone who very recently raised this question about updating Oracle text, this is great news. Thanks, sebi!

Just from a quick search for "Hound", it looks like there are 79 that didn't get updated to "Dog":  https://deckbox.org/games/mtg/cards?f=47SG91bmQ*

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(2 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

meldon44 wrote:

There are definitely many instances of inaccurate oracle text I've come across over time. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe Sebi imports the oracle text for cards when he initially adds them to the database, and potentially not any time after that. (I'm not sure if he ever runs any sort of periodic process to mass-update all cards.) If my hunch is correct, then the oracle text displayed on Deckbox will be what was accurate at the time of the set's release (evident by the dog vs hound discrepancy). The exception to this would probably be reprints -- since all versions of a card share a card info page, a reprint may update outdated oracle text. But even that isn't 100% true. Take Lightning Bolt. It still has the M11-era wording (target creature or player), even though a more recent printing (Mystical Archives) has the updated wording (any target).

Hmm... So, I wonder if it's possible to rescan Oracle Text? Obviously, this would probably be a large undertaking given the number of cards, but it would be helpful to have current creature types to search for people building tribal decks (for example). Maybe something that's only rescanned once every 6 months to a year or something... or when we know there's a mass errata like what happened with Hound --> Dog?

meldon44 wrote:

This is accurate. They do NOT have rules text, only reminder text, and should not be searchable with that criteria. You'll encounter the same "issue" on even an advanced search engine like Scryfall, as well as with any other land that has types, such as battle lands (Canopy Vista), cycling lands (Scattered Groves), and shock lands (Temple Garden). You just have to perform two searches -- one for rules text, one for land types. (Though on Scryfall, you can find them all in one search by using "t:land id=gw".)

OK, this makes sense. Kind of annoying when doing searches, but I get it.

I've recently noticed a couple of issues while logging my collection.

1. At least some Oracle Text seems to be out of date. For instance, creatures with the type "Hound" have had errata to "Dog". IIRC, this happened back with Core 2021. I haven't researched any further, so unsure if there may be other discrepancies.

2. The OG dual lands have no Rules Text. So, if you were to search for Lands with Rules Text "{g} or {w}" to find lands for a Selesnya deck, Savannah will not show up in the results.

Per this link, M14 should be Pioneer legal. It looks like the few old Standard decks I still have from Return to Ravnica & Theros blocks are currently flagging all the M14 cards as invalid for Pioneer.

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(6 replies, posted in Announcements)

I'm noticing that the M20 expansion symbol is a little small in the lists/dropdowns and is almost unreadable. Compare with the other "M" core set symbols, for reference in the "other printings" dropdown for Pacifism.

Agreed that being able to select multiple cards and move them all at once between deck / sideboard / scratchpad would be a very nice addition.

Perhaps Imposing Sovereign in place of Blind Obedience? Would give you more targets for the Auras, in trade for the Artifact half of Blind Obedience. I'm expecting the Creature half is what you're more worried about anyway?

Probably because it was printed at the Common slot in Portal 2nd Age, so the card itself exists at both Common and Uncommon.

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(8 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

sebi wrote:

Fixed this now, cards are sorted by name as secondary criteria.

Thanks sebi!

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(8 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

One thing to add here. There still seems to be the issue where sorting by price leads to inconsistent results. When prices are the same across a number of cards in the list, the results are not returned in a consistent order.

For instance, I have a few pages of cards where the reported price is currently $0.00. I can sit on Page 1, refresh the page and the order is different. This makes it difficult to work with when paging, since you may very well be seeing the same results again from the previous page.

There really needs to be some additional sorting happening behind the scenes so that cards with the same $ value end up in a consistent order in the list when refreshing/paging.

Import -> Cards / Card List in the menu up top. smile

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(8 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

Knuttypoo wrote:
MMJuno wrote:

It's just the way the deck builder is designed. It does not use any specific version of a card from your inventory when creating deck lists. It just defaults to the most recent version there and only verifies counts against your inventory for the same-named card to see if you own enough (in any version) to "complete" the deck.

I can see tons of examples in my deck lists where it shows older versions of cards, so I'm pretty sure it's not defaulting to the most recent version.

I have noticed it does skip over some certain sets in some cases in its logic. Generally some of the one-off sets like Duel Decks, etc. Generally though, it seems to just assume the latest "mainstream" printing. If that makes sense?

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(8 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

It's just the way the deck builder is designed. It does not use any specific version of a card from your inventory when creating deck lists. It just defaults to the most recent version there and only verifies counts against your inventory for the same-named card to see if you own enough (in any version) to "complete" the deck.

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(13 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

NullParameter wrote:

Another possibility would be to make access friend based, so that only people that you see as friends could see your inventory.  That would kind of give the best of both worlds.  You wouldn't have to continually ask for/enter passwords to do a lot of the standard actions, you'd just need to make sure that you're friends with the people that you're trying to interact with.

This sounds like a good compromise to me. I don't think I'd want to deal with giving out passwords, which could then possibly be given to others without your knowledge.

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(13 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

AsymptomaticPyrexia wrote:

I stress the importance of making the inventory private and not viewable to everyone. Almost every trader I deal with asks for cards from my inventory and it's been real tedious telling everyone I only trade from my tradelist when it's written in my profile. There's no reason for it to be visible to everyone when we have tradelists. I wish this request will be seriously considered.

Agreed.

Known issue, due to some sets not being listed on Gatherer.

They do have plans to put together an importer from other sites to get the stuff Gatherer is missing.

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(21 replies, posted in Decks and Deckbuilding)

If I've learned anything from my years of experience with various message boards, it's this:

1. The existence of sticky threads does not mean that everyone will read them. No doubt, they are generally helpful to those that do bother to take the time, but don't expect a magic fix. tongue

2. The larger an individual thread gets, the less likely people will read back from the start. So, I'm not sure that grouping all similar decks together in one large thread is going to be overly useful as intended or not.


Maybe an idea is breaking up the deck building forum into sub-forums along some of the general types..? You could have some level of organization this way, without newer users feeling overwhelmed by or put out with having to read through large existing threads?

Yep, seems fine now for my searches.

Confirmed, along with these others that I've noted in a "deck" when I happened to notice them.

http://deckbox.org/sets/195028

Yeah, there's definitely some weirdness going on... not just tied to M13, so it seems.

I tried, for example, searching my inventory for Rules Text that Contains the word Exalted, with the Format set to Standard. I got 3 cards back, all white. So the rest of the white, none of the black, and the land that gives Exalted were not returned in the search/filter.

Similar issues were seen with trying to search for Subtype that Contains the word Soldier, Type as Creature, and Format as Standard, and only returned 2 cards, instead of the 2 pages of results (when I individually select the editions that make up Standard, instead of using the Format selection).

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(8 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

Pretty sure I saw elsewhere in the forums here that it will be flagged on Friday, so everything should be good.

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(8 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

As far as it not being listed as Standard, that is correct since it technically isn't Standard legal until next Friday.

I'll probably end up red/white or white/black, since I generally seem to favor those color combos.

Thought it might be quite useful to be able to select multiple cards in inventory/wishlist/tradelist and be able to set all selections at once. Obviously this wouldn't really work too well for edition, depending on what you had selected... but, Langage and Condition should apply to everything, regardless of selection without any issues.

I had thought to go through my wishlist to set all languages to English, but so many individual clicks would be involved that I give up. tongue