1 Reply by jassi007

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kyncaith wrote:

Is there an easy way to add the entire Anthology (or any Duel Deck) to your collection? It would be nice to simply click "Add to Collection" instead of having to individually add cards. Maybe there is and I'm just not seeing it.

No. What you can do is google "elves vs goblins decklist" you should see a link to wizards to find the list, in this case http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/Magazi … eature/432  You can click the magic online button on the decklist and get a text file.

19 Forest
2 Tranquil Thicket
1 Wirewood Lodge
1 Ambush Commander
1 Allosaurus Rider
2 Elvish Eulogist
1 Elvish Harbinger
3 Elvish Warrior
2 Gempalm Strider
1 Heedless One
2 Imperious Perfect
3 Llanowar Elves
2 Lys Alana Huntmaster
1 Stonewood Invoker
1 Sylvan Messenger
1 Timberwatch Elf
1 Voice of the Woods
2 Wellwisher
1 Wirewood Herald
1 Wirewood Symbiote
2 Wood Elves
1 Wren's Run Vanquisher
1 Elvish Promenade
2 Giant Growth
1 Harmonize
1 Wildsize
3 Moonglove Extract
1 Slate of Ancestry

Then copy that, import list in deckbox, set the SET to duel deck anthologies elves vs goblins and enter it.

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2 Reply by jassi007

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ThornedRazor wrote:

I have a Vendilion Clique and am willing to trade it away. It is in Mint to Near Mint condition. The best offer gets it. anyone interested and willing to trade will be informed either way if their offer is the one that is the best or not. looking mainly for legacy/modern or unhinged, unglued, or zendicar foil lands. must be foil lands. I do have pictures of the card if quality proof is needed. Smoke Free Home

I have a foil zen island 236 and foil zen forest 248 interested in your clique.

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3 Reply by jassi007

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Decks prices can be wildly inaccurate because it doesn't take into account what version of a card you have in a deck. It just picks one.

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4 Reply by jassi007

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^

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5 Reply by jassi007

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bump

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bump

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7 Topic by jassi007

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Want:

1 vendilion clique (pending)
3 cryptic command (mma)
1 mystic gate
3 restoration angel
2 engineered explosives
1 eiganjo castle
1 stony silence
1 electrolyze (rav)
3 kor firewalker

Have:

Abrupt Decay
Voice of Resurgence
Liliana of the Veil
FOIL 9ed Grave Pact
FOIL Lrw Liliana Vess
shocklands!
breeding pool
sacred foundry
steam vents
stomping ground
temple garden
Damnation
3 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
FOIL Dragonmaster Outcast (a bit worn)
Batterskull GP
and more

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8 Reply by jassi007

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Nevpicasso wrote:
valdor wrote:
Nevpicasso wrote:

Am I missing something? It doesn't look damaged in the scans.

Zoom in. The bottom right corner in the back view is really damaged as well as the the left corner. The entire card has border wear on front and back and the back is getting worn evident by the white splotchy look.

I guess those are just signs of HP to me and not damaged but I'm not in the market for these kinds of things so my evaluation doesn't really matter.

It is damaged because the corner is missing cardboard. If you put another card under it, you'd see that the corners aren't 100% there anymore. This could make it unplayable even in a sleeve, because you can tell it apart from other cards by touching the corner/edge of the sleeve to see which card is missing a little bit of the corner.

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9 Reply by jassi007

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PhillipW wrote:

I agree that an indicator telling us a user is currently involved in an ongoing trade dispute would be good.

That or suspend new trades (both sending and receiving) while there is a dispute open.

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10 Reply by jassi007

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I wouldn't trade with anyone that feels that 100+ feedback isn't sufficient. It wouldn't upset me, there is no trade I need to the point that I'd get irritated. I'd say no and if they didn't want to trade then we wouldn't.

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11 Reply by jassi007

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ryanghall wrote:

I saw an estimate of 0.025%. There's really no reason why non-stolen mail that's addressed properly should ever get lost.  What could possibly happen to it?

Really? How about vehicle accidents mail trucks/planes. Destroyed beyond delivery (ie not just ripped/torn but damaged to the point where they can't read either address). Misdelivered and the accidental recipient doesn't put it back in the mail to be redelivered. Dropped/lost by the carrier and not recovered or recovered by another party. Can you seriously not think of things that could happen to an envelope on a 1000 mile journey that it may not arrive?

Even if the number you quoted is correct, and it would be nice if it was that insanely low (I don't believe it is) that is 38.5 million pieces of lost mail a year.

I'm not really trying to stir something up, you just seem really incredulous about undelivered mail to the point where it seems kind of silly. It happens to millions if not a billion or so pieces of mail a year. Like even if its 99.9% of all mail is delivered, thats still 150 million parcels not delivered successfully. It isn't a trivial number. There are 117 million households in the U.S. That means per year it happens to everyone at least once. Which means really it happens to some people more than once per year. It happens.

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12 Reply by jassi007

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ryanghall wrote:

Perhaps. I guess I'd just been overly lucky in the past.

I just know that things don't really get lost in the mail (stolen by employees looking for gift cards this time of year is another story).

I'll continue to give it a try, as I love the layout of the site.

You really think the post office doesn't lose mail? I tried to find some facts or figures, apparently it is not something that is really tracked, but most estimate come in around 1% ? That does mean that out of roughly 154 billion parcels sent, a billion or so don't arrive. It is a small percent but a large number.

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13 Reply by jassi007

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ryanghall wrote:

Hi,

I joined Deckbox this year and made 16 trades.  In several of these trades, I was sent cards that were not even close to properly described, but in the end we worked something out that was fair.

Recently, not once but twice in 2 months I've had cards that "didn't make it to the receiver".

I've made well over 300 trades on MOTL (and have 232 refs) over 10+ years and have never had even a hint of a problem.

Have I just had awful luck with the site or have others encountered what I have encountered here?

I have over 100 trades here (probably close to 130-150 if you count people who are to lazy to leave feedback) and I have had the following issues. 1. a trader in canada who got hit with customs fees, was adjudicated by DB. 2 times I failed to receive cards, once the user got them back roughly a month later, the other I am not sure. Twice user did not receive my cards, once I compensated him (was like $5) and the other i got it back wrong address, confirmed address and resent, no issue. (stupid post office)

MOTL is frankly more work to engage in a trade, so I'm sure the effort level weeds out some people. Deckbox is a better platform, but the ease of use probably attracts a few more undesirables? I don't trade heavily but I still use deckbox on a regular basis and feel confident in the system. I just use a simple rule of thumb, if I'm not comfortable with accepting a loss on a trade, I pay for tracking. If I shrug  about the cards getting lost and possibly having to replace them, I send it PWE.

As far as condition, I find it isn't just a deckbox thing, but a cards thing. If condition matters, ask. If they swear its NM after you double checked, open a BTR. (assuming you can't work it out with them) I deal in less than NM cards a good bit from collections, but I do 2 things. I don't mark cards as any condition, and I will make sure a trade partner knows if a card is not nm. I also am happy to take pictures of any card. I haven't had anyone contact me about condition issues yet.

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14 Reply by jassi007

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sending trade

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15 Reply by jassi007

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Orlendis wrote:

I think it would be a great idea to have like a "seller premium account." Something like $3.99 for normal members, and $5.99 for those that sell regularly (or want to), and that "premium seller account" monthly fee would waive any sales fees. Thoughts?

$2 a month for people who use the site more seems...backwards. I mean, it would be the cheapest selling portal on the internet by an insanely large margin (I'd imagine most decent sized online stores pay $1000's per month to tcgplayer/ebay etc.) A flat $6 a month would attract a large volume of sellers to the platform, but it would have the opposite effect. The amount of work to support those users would greatly surpass the $6 a month they paid. The site would probably not even be able to pay for the bandwidth it used at those rates. It is a bad idea, for a lot of reasons. You could make an argument that premium members get a reduced percentage? like 6.5% or something. A large volume seller could easily pay for the small premium fee in savings per month.

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16 Reply by jassi007

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bactgudz wrote:

It seems gnp17, sebi, and the OP are consistent...if he owes the site $0.85, then he has incurred a total of $10.85 in fees (since the first $10 is covered by the initial charge)....He must have sold more than $41 or fees were incorrectly calc'd; if he had only sold 41, he'd have a credit balance, not owe $0.85.

Sure except that if he paid his intial $10, and has incured .85 in fee's, he has $9.15 in credit and owes nothing, which is not what he said at all. The OP makes it sound as if deckbox's transaction fee is 25% or something crazy (he says its higher than Ebay which he's just flat wrong about).

Sebi knows I will criticize deckbox if I feel something isn't correct but at least get the facts correct if you want to discuss things.  I like this site and want to see it grow and evolve and prosper.

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17 Reply by jassi007

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Orlendis wrote:

Does premium effect selling? I.E. if you sell some cards and you have premium, do you still have to pay a portion to the site monthly based on what you sell? Or does the monthly premium account get rid of the monthly invoices of sales? I quite dislike the portion the site takes out of our pockets. I've only made total sales of around $41 so far, and out of that I already owe the site $10.85. That's worse than eBay.

I'd suggest contacting the deckbox admin if your first bill for $41.00 in sales is $10.85. 6.9% of $41.00 is $2.83 which is what your bill should be. That is lower than ebay + paypal fees which are around 10% combined.

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18 Reply by jassi007

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9700377 wrote:
nirvana1987 wrote:
9700377 wrote:

I accept this. However, your original point was that "we don't want to be competitive." We do. It's just costly, and if pegging to Deckbox's algorithm doesn't make us competitive than this is something that Deckbox should be working on. If Sebi wanted to jack marketplace sales he could just lower the Deckbox price on all the cards, although sellers might end up happy if this does lead to pricing that's substantially below what sellers would like or have come to expect.

I'll also note that one risk for sellers on Deckbox is that people are very savvy at blowing you out if any of your prices are slightly-behind a price spike or if some class of cards is cheaper on Deckbox for some reason that other sites (iirc shocklands used to be unusually cheap here.) This leads me to slightly-bias my prices more on the high side than I would have otherwise. I wish I had the ability to unconditionally cancel an order within 24h of its being made... I guess I could try to outline that on my profile page as a policy, but I could see people being unhappy with it.

One thing I've noticed is that I used to make lots of sales on here but recently I haven't made any. I haven't changed my pricing strategy. Am I to blame? Is the marketplace more competitive (eg. it's attracted outlets like adventuresON)? Or are prices just too high? I don't know. My comparative advantage isn't to know. I came to this site to trade and selling is just a neat value-add but not something I want to devote tons of energy towards. If marketplace sales are falling across the board (are they?) than perhaps this is a site issue.

Every Seller probably has a unique situation. To answer the question as to why my prices may not be competitive here I'll give you some insight to my situation. I already sell cards through the following online market places:

eBay
TCGPlayer
Amazon
Deckbox
Occasionally FB groups and pojo

In addition I work a full time 9-5 job. In order to stay competitive prices can change on a daily basis. It's not humanly possible for me to update prices on all of these platforms that frequently.

My suggestion as a temporary solution would be although Deckbox no longer allows sales outside of their marketplace system that doesn't stop you from contacting the seller directly to negotiate prices and have them update their price in the marketplace to something competitive. A more permanent solution would be for Deckbox to implement a "Best Offer" option for purchases. Similar to what eBay does so that buyers and sellers can renegotiate prices.


You can already basically do this, actually. A buyer can make a proposed order and then ask for a discount to make it "competitive", and the seller can apply that discount. Maybe some people don't know about this feature, though.

What you suggest touches on one idea that I found cool before, though... that users should be able to specify buy prices for cards on their wishlist similar to how you can have sell prices for cards on your tradelist, and then sellers would be able to reach out to buyers directly.

I would use the shit out of that feature. I would love to list a buy price, and let someone propose a sale to me. I'd pay for premium for that type of feature.

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19 Reply by jassi007

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9700377 wrote:
jassi007 wrote:

I'm not sure why for the most part deckbox marketplace sellers don't want to be competitive on prices, but they don't.

You can't guess why most deckbox marketplace sellers don't want to spend tons of time scraping pricing data from other sites in order to set their own prices?

I'll note that better pricing algorithms and analytics would be a perfect example of a useful premium feature.

I understand what you are saying, even in your wonderfully snarky way. However, the point remains, if you put a card up for sale, and want to sell it, your price has to be within the market value. If it isn't. you aren't going to see many sales.

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20 Reply by jassi007

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sebi wrote:

Some users are using it, and I intend to make things better there too, don't get me wrong.

It is just that those sites you mentioned have already a number of users many orders of magnitude more than deckbox.

Even deckbox users that seem to like it here still do shop on tcgplayer and other places, and not here. I am not sure why... I suppose it also takes time for it to gain some footing...

Its mostly prices I think. Most deckbox sellers choose to not be competitive on prices or shipping. I don't know why $2 shipping seems to be the norm. I suspect it is due to everyone tracking to avoid all liability. I don't worry about sellers on tcgplayer using PWE with a stamp, if I don't get it they'll make restitution. I also worry more about condition.

Say I want to buy some Force of Wills. I just have a hard time believing that the 14 for sale, 1 is MINT and 13 NM. Maybe they are but if I buy from an online retailer with a credit card and the condition is not as described, they'll A. almost surely take the card back. B. I can do a chargeback if they won't. It is just easier than a bad trader report, and/or possibly a paypal dispute. Sebi I'm sure you know, I am a frequent reader of the BTR's (and I have all kinds of opinions tongue ) condition disputes are still real messy. They just luckily don't come up much.

For small transactions, the shipping usually kills the prospect for me. For bigger ones, its condition issues.  For a lot of others, its just poor pricing. One last example. Stormbreath Dragon. I can pick him up around the internet for about $12 right now. AdventurON has him priced well, but all other sellers prices are $2-4 to high, plus again most have $2 shipping. I'm not sure why for the most part deckbox marketplace sellers don't want to be competitive on prices, but they don't. TCGplayer is pretty cutthroat with pricing, but deckbox users generally are not.

One last thought. Me not being a store, but I'd bet crystal commerce integrates with TCGplayer, or TCPplayer integrates with it. The value of a store having a platform for sale and inventory that to my understanding works on their personal website, ebay, and probably tcgplayer can't be underestimated. Have you looked into integrating Crystal Commerce into the deckbox marketplace? If stores can hook into deckbox easily, then more of them may do it. If deckbox had average user Barry competing with Channel Fireball, Card Titan, Legit MTG, Pink Bunny, and other stores, then his prices would probably fall in line better, deckbox pricing data would probably become more in line with market prices (it is really good, but it'd get even better with more vendors selling cards) and I could take a little risk buying from an individual if the price was right, or a little comfort buying from a store I know and trust like Channel Fireball.

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21 Reply by jassi007

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9700377 wrote:

Would they actually do additional investigation beyond saying "our records show that the package was delivered", though? Would they contact the recipient for a statement? I'm just not seeing how insurance would have mattered in this instance.

Not sure, don't work for the post office and I've never opened an insurance claim. USPS makes a lot of mistakes with tracking, as an anecdote, I sent a friend some cards tracked. Tracking showed they arrived, he didn't get it. Contacted his local postal carrier, and the postmaster. They did investigate, 3 days later the package arrived. They offered no explanation to what happened. It is however not unheard of for postal carriers to scan all their packages as delivered before they deliver them. They view it as a paperwork kind of chore. Then if they don't actually put it in the mailbox, woops! fell behind the seat in the truck or whatever, gets found a few days later and delivered.

I don't think with an insured package that a delivery scan alone constitutes proof.

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9700377 wrote:
elpablo wrote:

Sending something priority comes with tracking and $50 insurance ... why either of you wouldn't spend the extra $1.00 to get insurance on a trade of this value boggles my mind.

Would insurance actually cover a case where the package is marked as delivered but the recipient claims never actually arrived?

I've sent something like over 80 trades and have yet to have a package simply lost in a way that only insurance would clearly deal with. Thus I don't really miss it. Maybe I'm naive.

If you open an insurance claim the post office will investigate what happened, because they're on the hook if they don't deliver. If they refuse to pay the claim because they delivered, that should more or less be proof that the recipient is where the problem is.

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23 Reply by jassi007

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elpablo wrote:

The sender is responsible for sending correctly, which includes using tracking etc... if the sender doesn't send correctly then they are responsible.  Sending without tracking is a risk the sender is willfully taking. If they do send with tracking then they did their job, imo.

Everyone needs to also understand that the traders on here are not a business in general and even if they are their small businesses (shop owners) and usually can't afford to take a personal loss and just resend product like an Amazon or a Wal-Mart.  This is why it feels so personal when things don't work out.  It hurts in a very real way when you have to pay someone out of pocket or resend cards or lose value on a bad trade (USPS or not).  Sebi and team are doing a decent job running things and there's only so much they can do, but I wish people would do more research and have a better understanding of what they're getting into.

True but it is honestly crazy to trade cards via mail and not expect some loss. With big trades you def. want to do all you can to protect yourself, I did a $500+ trade for some duals recently and I surely sent it priority with tracking and insurance, it cost me $20 but that is money well spent to not get screwed on a $500 trade.

Most people set a threshold. I'll accept having to on the rare occasion pay out on a $5-10 trade. Or some people say I won't do any trade under $20 or 30 and i'll track all of them. They are all reasonable options. Even so, sometimes the post office will lose mail, it is inevitable. Mail trade requires trust.

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24 Reply by jassi007

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dave0192 wrote:

This is my 3rd party take on this situation:

If senders were held responsible for lost mail even after getting tracking then one of two things would happen [1: Trading would come to a massive slow because everyone would have to purchase insurance and small trades would not be worth even shipping. 2: BTR's would go through the roof because any untrustworthy person could lie and say they never received their cards even with tracking saying they did.] So naturally, senders can't be held responsible for every small corner case of mail saying delivered when it actually wasn't. I personally have had this situation occur to me and I just took the loss because there really is no way for me to prove that I never got my cards.

Saying this, however, I think it is very clear that Wally never received his cards and is just trying his best to get something out of his trade that has gone horribly wrong. After reading the BTR it was apparent that the rules are worded in a way that can be very confusing, basically seeming like we have to get insurance on every trade (which is a bit unrealistic.) While unfortunate I think he basically has to take the loss, but should not get negative feedback for trying his best to not lose $100 for nothing.

From the way things are panning out it seems as though Wally has lost that $100 in value and is getting kicked while hes down with the negative feedback. Consider things from his point of view is all I am saying. (Because again, I have been in his exact situation with a smaller trade.)

It may seem like the negative is him being kicked when he is down. However, there is a difference between asking for help and accusing the owner of the site of playing favorites etc. Wally is historically combative in BTR's. His problem is he can't accept that when a trade goes wrong someone takes a loss, and he can't accept that it might be him. He then gets really rude with the mods and his trading partners when things aren't going his way. He got a negative for acting like a toddler and lashing out when the world doesn't go his way, not for feeling bad about taking a loss.

Anyone who trades online has to accept they will incur a loss at some point. It is unavoidable. You do your best to ensure your losses are minimal by doing things like using tracking etc but it will happen.

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25 Reply by jassi007

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Wally_H wrote:

I don't think the btr on this should be closed yet because the post office has yet to have input. The postmaster said I could come in tomorrow and she would sign off on a statement proving non-delivery.
With that being said I also feel strange about the 163 trades I have under my belt here already. thinking back at all the time I wasted wondering if the package was going to make there or not, as long as I had tracking it didn't seem to matter... I guess if the tracking on this trade still read out for delivery things would be different.

As for past btrs, dude first of all one thing has nothing to do with the other.
1 guy sent me a damaged card marked NM and I felt cheated. Lost that btr
1 guy backed out after addresses exchanged. Lost that btr
This guy sent his cards with tracking... I'm not upset with him, I have stated if I was him I would feel the same as he does.

I think the negative feedback is more to do with the past than the present, that's not cool that a mod with a grudge.

The mod doesn't have a grudge. This isn't personal either. These words will be lost on you, because you take everything personally, but Sebi uses negative feedback when a trader demonstrates that they have a recurring problem. Sometimes on one or two BTR's you give a trader the benefit of the doubt. You got the benefit of the doubt on past BTR's even thought you were combatative. This is the 3rd time, you have made it clear this wasn't a hot headed moment etc. your just going to fight about everything whenever a trade goes wrong. It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, if your the innocent victim or the guilty party. Your getting a negative because your a jerk, and who wants a jerk for a trading partner? Sebi gave you two chances to stop being a jerk when a trade goes sour, but you haven't taken them. So now everyone you may trade with will see your negative, see your BTR and understand that if the trade doesn't go 100% perfect you are going to be a jerk whether or not they have done something wrong.

Your BTR was closed because no matter what the postmaster says, the sender didn't do wrong and they aren't going to be obligated to send your cards back or compensate you. As far as deckbox is concerned, this is no longer a deckbox issue, they can't and/or won't do anything more.

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