Paul woods: scammer or just a deadbeat? (Page 1 of 3)

I am new to deckbox and this community as a whole.  I fully understand the "you ship first" mentality of those who have been on here longer than I have (though I have sold cards on ebay before).

I have already thought of what I will do if someone does not ship the agreed upon trade to me after I have already shipped out.  I will try to make that person a social pariah on this sub reddit and warn as many people as I can about the person.

That being said I think your guy was just a jerk... sometimes you have to deal with that .  I would just never do business with them again.

For those who are unlucky enough to lose cards, this does involve mailing things, and thereby should entail some sort of mail fraud and appropriate potential consequences.  I don't know much about that, as I've thankfully never had to look into it; does anyone here know the basics? 

That being said, please don't take this as a standing threat to anyone that would conduct any trades.  This community is full of great people, and problems with trade[r]s are the vast minority.

For the people wondering what to do about mail fraud go here: https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/form … laint.aspx

I haven't had to use it (yet, but came very close one time) so I don't know exactly what happens once you file a complaint. Definitely check it out though if the other user is unresponsive to any of your messages and an inexcusable amount of time has passed with no mail or communication between you two.

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Well fingers crossed that I get the cards I was promised.

So is there anything we can do to prevent this scammer from making another account and scamming other members? Like block his IP from registering etc. We at the very least have his name (or fake name) and address. I would really hate for anyone else to get jipped, it seems like he has 8 open trades which are all recent and none of the other members have received their cards either.

I just filled it out, I am tired of waiting for his response its been over a week and he has already received my cards. If you need an idea of what to write, here is what I put:

This person is defrauding members on a popular trading forum www.deckbox.org by creating an account and having members mail goods to him in return for agreed upon goods. There has been at least 8 accounts of him not following up on the transactions and not responding to any kind of communication. If a chat history log is required, I can provide it but as of right now the only information we have is that he is conducting this scam through the above name and address and hopefully there is something that can be done to put a stop to this.

Unfortunately, the chances of getting anything recovered are slim to none but I just want others to avoid falling into our situation. This puts a sour taste in my mouth for making anymore mail trades in the future.

yes that one

Not sure how anyone could get pissy about sending first if their rating is lower - it is the site's policy. When I was first on here, a couple of different members mentioned the site policy and I didn't have any problem with it..if someone does, then you probably shouldn't trade with them to begin with.

If you are still wanting to send simultaneously, one thing I've been able to do is use the policy of asking for (and giving) delivery confirmation for anything over 25 in trade.  Then you can simply get the delivery confirmation first if you are uncomfortable, wait a day and check to make sure it is on its way.  At least there is some assurance when you can check on the package.

One more thing to anyone who backhandedly (or openly) harshes on a person that posts a thief or extremely poor sport on the forum.  That's what forums are for.  If we do not, as a community, show we are not going to tolerate that behavior, then it we are condoning it.  If someone stole money out of a wallet, it would surely be reported.  Well, MTG cards have monetary value - so it is money that is being stolen and should be treated as such.

Last edited by morningstar1978 (2012-05-31 03:18:31)

File a complaint through that link above. I don't know how useful it will be but it doesn't hurt to try to stop this lowlife from screwing other people over.

These are the types of people whose doors I'd love to go knock on. Lincoln is a bit too far away from me, though.

Deckbox needs a few local posses to deal with people thinking they can cheat the system.

I did a trade with Paul Woods about two weeks back. I asked him to send first, which he did. I received the cards in great condition. I sent mine a while ago back to him. He hasn't marked received it anything even though it has been a while. Maybe he's just off deckbox and got overwhelmed by trades or something. Who knows?

I sent a Foil Cavern and Wolfir Silverheart for 2 Bonfire of the Damned