Sad trend, new enforcement on harassing people about card valuation

I would agree.  If someone doesn't want to pay a certain amount or trade at a certain value, they aren't adding anything valuable to the forum post by saying so.  Just  go about your business and leave the post alone.  If you are right about someone asking too much, the OP will get the hint when no one responds to their offer.

Couldn't agree more.  Too many threads devolve into senseless bickering because of posts of this nature.

I have had issues with this personally, I would like to think that I try my best to make everyone happy but sometimes it just doesn't work out, this is definitely a needed addition.

I would request that it should remain stickied in the form of a simple locked post on rules about valuation as this is a sore subject for a bunch of people (for some reason)

I mean recently I traded way over value for a card (stifle) but that is because it is old as hell and I valued it more than the modern cards being traded for it. But I know that if it had been backwards and I was asking for more value for the card some people would be offended rather than just say ok that's unfortunate and close the trade.

This is exactly what we are trying to avoid. The community policing itself has shown very flawed and a lot of bad has come out of it. It's like the Wild West: With the appearance of no real consequences to anything said or done in the forums, people were becoming far too aggressive and menacing/flaming. The idea is we want an accountable, unbiased authority for someone to go to if they have any issues who can also monitor posts/threads. This is a friendly website/community and we want to keep it that way. As I say time and time again, it is each seller/trader's own prerogative to price/value their cards however they choose and the interested party's prerogative to offer or negotiate a price they deem fair. Calling someone out on how they value cards adds nothing positive to the community and often detracts from it, derailing topics/posts into pointless bickering. And no, I was appointed

I think that the mods have this one spot on.

The ability for a group of people to police themselves means that there must be accountability to each other, which we don't have. Most of us don't really know one another other than through trade reputation, and when money(card value) is on the line, otherwise very nice people can become very pushy and insulting. The facelessness of a forum makes this much too easy. There must be accountability, the only way we can fairly have this is through moderators by acclimation and rules that universally enforced and leave little room for opinion.

Just my two cents.

From a public POV, I think it was fine. All that happened in a few cases was people got (lightly) flamed. If we're talking about spam, there are way worse offenders and I think you know that. I don't really care as long as mods aren't editing posts every time someone gets their feelings hurt.

There is a significant difference between flaming and educating.  I suggest that a little education be allowed.  The 2ndary market is brutal - I found out first hand when I first attempted to sell my cards and was profoundly unsuccessful.  I see little reason why more experienced users of this forum can't impart wisdom to newer users.  It will increase the quality of posts in this forum and will save the time and effort of forum users attempting to sell their cards.  It will also help members sell cards more quickly.

Last edited by grossoggodeckbox (2013-12-08 03:16:25)

There is already talks in the work with Sebi to create a "Selling Forum". Not sure when that will be but its in the near future.

It even happens IRL. There was a guy who was hesitating of a junk for junk trade due to $.15. This is in the uk where that's like 10p. In the end when I was home I checked and he was vastly underestimating my cards and overestimating his cards. This is why I'm loving deckbox. Makes it a lot easier.

As just one mod, I am well aware of the difference between flaming (multiple posts mentioning the same thing) and constructive commentary (post designed to gain insight, aid, or assist the original poster who many not be aware of the possibilities that exist).

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Also sellers should not retaliate on such comments, don't take them so personally or as an attack, most people here on deckbox are friendly and are only trying to help or provide helpful information, although sometimes may not be worded in a way that is polite. 

I know I have had my differences of opinion on card prices and the best way I find is to be level headed, state your case, listen to what others have to say and to keep the bickering to the trade windows and not the forum, that way you don't have outside comments that just fuel the flames (if it comes to that). 

If a person does come across a comment such as "good luck selling at those prices" etc. either don't reply or simply reply with a thank you.