Consider creating a TCG account and selling there if you're interested in getting something closer to market price. Otherwise, most buyers will always see the individual and not the business, and they'll expect to pay less (somewhere between normal buylist pricing and vendor pricing).

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(6 replies, posted in Buying & Selling Cards)

Interesting. Who gave you a 50% offer? Most I received when shopping my collection around was 40%...

Agreed with all the above.

I would sell any and all standard-legal cards you're not using. If you want them for collection purposes, wait until about 3-6 months after they rotate out of standard and then pick them up. Historically, this is the lowest they get before they start to creep up in price.

NOTE: This only applies to cards that will actually gain value over time, such as cards eligible for Modern play, non-basic lands, or foils. All else will remain at its low price. Either way, this is still the correct timeframe to look at when picking up cards for long-term collection purposes.

I imagine the best you can do is to simply write as much on your profile. Many people read profiles before starting up a trade. Some don't, but you can't fix that.

By the way, where did you get a 50% offer? I typically received 40% offers when I shopped around. Curious who is offering more right now.

I recommend trying your luck selling on Facebook groups, too.

The high-end MtG group might be a place to start: https://www.facebook.com/groups/highendmtg/

I've run into an issue. My trade tab shows I have a comment, but for the life of me I can't find the trade where the comment was made. I've looked through everything (I think) in my current negotiations, completed trades, and canceled trades, and I can't find it. However, I have so many of these pages now (dozens of them, and I'm not even that big of a trader), that I can't imagine going through all of them to see what I missed. Is there a way to just jump straight to the trade that has this comment?

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(16 replies, posted in Buying & Selling Cards)

epicwally wrote:

Just gonna put this out there, but given that this board sees an average of 1 post per week, your post will be at the top for a long time without needing to "bump" it every couple days.

That's true. That said, there is a benefit to "bumping" in that the bump creates a notification on a user's primary Deckbox page under the Communities category. On the Communities page itself, the three latest post show in the "Latest forum posts" section, and bump will put a thread back into this spot as well.

There's also the matter of updating forum users that a seller is still selling (often, sellers don't close a thread, so there's no way of knowing how long before a post is no longer valid). Some users wait for a while before making an offer, figuring that a longer wait time = a seller more willing to negotiate down.

I mention this to you since you likely didn't realize this, considering your post.

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(3 replies, posted in General Discussion)

The recipient should not be held liable for a lost package. Imagine ordering something from Amazon and then getting a message "tough noodles, your package got lost, we can meet you in the middle and refund you halfway."

The sender is responsible for the cards getting delivered to the recipient. If the sender chooses the mail as his/her form of card delivery, the sender takes on that risk. This is what mail insurance is for.

The more I use this, the less I can remember what it was like without it.

Thanks for the handy feature.

This was a really good solution, in my opinion. And, you can tell that this was the evolution from the discussion you opened up for the community at large last month. Thanks for looking for feedback. The result is a much more matured, evolved concept.

Amurphcs wrote:

Using this system, My concern would become more with the cost of product as well. People tend to ship things in their own way, and don't always use a "user friendly" system. The system I speak of would be:

Card ---> optional perfect fit ---> sleeve ---> hard cover ---> Team bag ---> Bubble mailer/PWE

The cost to ship 1 card in this way would be an additional approx $1.2 or so, depending on how much bulk you buy. Would these supplies be issued by deckbox?
I think that the cost would be marginal for trades that exceed $100, especially if you don't include insurance as the cost pretty much makes up the difference.
It would be nice if you could just use the shipping methods over again, but many times people use tape etc, which would limit the ability to use them again. Also, if a shipping method is suspect, you would want to re-package the items so there would be no problems on the next stage.

No idea how this would end up. However, if I were piloting such a service, I'd make it clear I'm not responsible for anything other than the escrow verification process. In home purchases, escrow doesn't get held accountable for anything other than verification that the title is clear. For a card escrow service, I'd make it clear that I open the package, verify the cards are in there and that they look like the ones in the pictures, and then put them right back in the packaging it was sent in (sleeves, if any, envelope) (and that in turn into a new envelope that will have the actual postage) and ship it off once I received both trades.

That might not be what users would want, though. Maybe Deckbox traders WANT to hold Deckbox accountable for such things. So, no idea what such a service would end up as.

valdor wrote:
Amurphcs wrote:

Im interested in knowing what the average number of transactions open are for users on here? Personally i only try to keep 1 or 2 open at once

I go through spurts but I will only ever keep a max of 5 or 6 trades going at the same time.

When I show up to trade, I open anywhere from 1-30 trades, with card trade priority based on a first confirm, first serve basis. Most users ignore trades and never respond, so I take that into account. With lots of trades open, I have a good chance of getting 5-6 trades finalized once you take into account non-responders, failed negotiations, etc.

Rather than restrictions on trading, what about turning this into a possible service/business opportunity?

Imagine a Deckbox service that essentially acts as an escrow service.

Possible Process

  • Traders A and B have to submit pictures of their cards for them to both approve of the conditions. (This eliminates Deckbox having to verify conditions based on a subjective scale)

  • Traders send cards to Deckbox escrow address

  • Deckbox representative films: the opening of each envelope and each card (used as evidence that same cards were shipped as in pictures and protection from claims that Deckbox switched cards out), and the placing of cards into new envelopes (to protect against claims that Deckbox sent different cards). Alternately, something can be written into the service's terms of agreement contract that indemnifies Deckbox of any such claims

  • Upon verification, Deckbox sends the cards to the new owners (likely with tracking, again for liability reasons)

Thoughts on Cost
The service would cost money to cover expenses, such as shipping fees and labor costs for having someone handle the trade. I imagine labor would be around 0.2 hours (opening, verifying against trade lists, possibly filming everything, creating new shipping labels, then putting in mailbox for shipment). Assuming minimum wage may go up to $15 in the future, after employment taxes you're looking at about $16.50/hour. At 0.2 hours of labor, that's about $3.30 in labor, maybe about $2.50 for USPS first-class or $5.50 small flat-rate box (for larger quantity trades).

Labor could be split by both parties, and shipping would depend on what someone is sending. Per trader, Deckbox's expenses would amount to about $3.65 (half of labor, $1.65, plus $2.50 first-class) for smaller shipments, and $6.65 for larger ones. Add in a 25% profit margin, and you get approximate service costs of $4.56 and $$8.31. At just 10% (I don't know Deckbox's overhead costs, so I don't know what would be feasible) the pricing would be more like $4.01 and $7.31.

Worth it or Not?
This wouldn't be economical for low-value trades, but for high-worth trades, some users may find this useful. Ultimately, the cost might not be all that much higher for some traders. If any of you are like me, I decide whether to add tracking based on my level of trust in the other trader (definitely not so the other user can track where the shipment is, I couldn't care less about that). Mail gets lost on rare occasion, but I suspect the more common culprit are traders claiming not to receive cards. Deckbox would be a trusted service, so I wouldn't feel the need to spend money on tracking when sending to Deckbox. I save money on my shipping costs, and spend a little more for the service. So, for trades above a certain monetary threshold (for me it would be around $50), the cost would be minimally higher in return for peace of mind.

Those are my initial thoughts on how such an escrow service could work (I'm sure you all can think of many other iterations). The inspiration was thinking about what the problem is we're trying to fix. People tend to get scammed on higher-value trades. Lower value scams certainly aren't pleasant, but the sky won't fall if you lose $20 in cards (let alone $5-$10). This would avoid restricting traders (an issue brought up by some), create a solution for those who are interested in a trade but normally wouldn't do it for fear of getting scammed, and would add an additional revenue source for Deckbox, paid for by those interested in the service. There may even be opportunity for including some version of this service for premium accounts, but that would have to be figured out by Deckbox's accounting team to see what would actually be worth it (perhaps X escrow trades per year for free).

Anyway, just a thought and opening this up for discussion.

Just a suggestion, but you may want to also take a look at eBay for listings of common and uncommon sets. For example, I recently purchased the entire common Kamigawa block (1x each card). Here's one of the auctions: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151972852537?_t … EBIDX%3AIT

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(1 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

You can quickly change your inventory/wishlist/tradelist counts by clicking on the card's [Edit] button in your wishlist (or any of your other lists, for that matter). See attached image.

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(25 replies, posted in Announcements)

Wow...sleek navigation changes. Thanks

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(389 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

699612163 wrote:

i have 2 foil fullart land cards from bfz (mountain + plain) priced at 81 and 100 dollars.. i think something's off smile

The Mountain is this one: https://deckbox.org/mtg/Mountain?printing=29742 Battle for Zendikar #268 (foil) listing as $81.14 as of Jan. 3, 2016.

Due to a lack of a like button on this forum, I'm posting my "like."

Like
wink

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(389 replies, posted in Site Discussion)

Price missing for MM2 foil Spellskite.
Price missing for prerelease events foil Arashin Sovereign.

Thank you in advance.

Very true. You see this in the housing market, too.

I'm not sure Orlendis was accusing you of ripping anyone off. I can't seem to find anything he wrote that would suggest that, other than a debate on pricing.

If such accusations are of concern, maybe you can stave them off by just including the keyword "buylisting" in the original title. If you say you're buylisting at 50% TCG, I don't think anyone could claim an issue with that, could they? The nuances of language!

Not to mention, who actually pays TCG mid price on a card? Well, I guess other than those who are impatient or buy from a brick-and-mortar store. wink Cards are commodities, and people buy at the lowest price, not an inflated TCG mid number.

Hello,

At the moment, your inventory is locked. Are you only looking to sell from your tradelist?

Thank you in advance for your response.

In addition to what is posted above me, wouldn't setting your profile to Vacation Mode also accomplish this?

It would, but I suspect it may seem too committal to some members who may think going into vacation status may bring about other, unforeseen changes to their accounts.

I believe this is already implemented: "Edit Profile & Settings" > under "Trading Information" select "Will send", set to "Not Trading: I do not wish to trade".
Not sure if this is the default for new members, but it probably should be.

Oh, I didn't realize that.

Then that means these kinds of people don't realize it or don't care. Any thoughts on other possible solutions for active traders to be able to streamline the process of avoiding users notorious for ignoring trades? I realize this is as simple as doing one's due diligence and checking profiles/current and past trades/etc., but that uses up time. I would be convenient to be able to put people on a list so that they don't pop up in search results. These days, I find myself checking each person I potentially want to trade with against a list of 30 or so users on my "ignores my trade requests" list. It's a makeshift fix, but it makes what should be a 5-second process into a 20-30 second process for each person.

Thoughts on solutions built into the system?