justintryon's Karador
 
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Edge of Eternities
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Edge of Eternities
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Main Deck - 100 cards, 86 distinct
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Name  Ed. Price Type Cost P T Modified
Rarity Color
Commander
1 Karador, Ghost Chieftain
$0.52 Legendary Creature - Centaur Spirit 3 4 26-Feb-2013 03:03
Creature (36)
1 Acidic Slime
$0.10 Creature - Ooze 2 2 10-Jun-2017 20:26
1 Angel of Despair
$0.73 Creature - Angel 5 5 26-Feb-2013 03:01
1 Angel of Sanctions
$0.48 Creature - Angel 3 4 22-May-2017 02:25
1 Angelic Field Marshal
$1.32 Creature - Angel 3 3 31-Jan-2015 18:25
1 Archangel of Tithes
$2.54 Creature - Angel 3 5 08-Aug-2015 15:38
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
$20.44 Legendary Creature - Angel 8 8 26-Feb-2013 03:01
1 Baneslayer Angel
$2.62 Creature - Angel 5 5 13-Apr-2016 02:32
1 Brutalizer Exarch
$0.19 Creature - Phyrexian Cleric 3 3 26-Feb-2013 03:01
1 Dauntless Escort
$0.48 Creature - Rhino Soldier 3 3 26-Feb-2013 03:01
1 Deadly Recluse
$0.05 Creature - Spider 1 2 26-Feb-2013 03:01
1 Deathcap Cultivator
$0.24 Creature - Human Druid 2 1 08-Apr-2016 20:23
1 Demon of Catastrophes
$0.26 Creature - Demon 6 6 07-Sep-2018 01:44
1 Droning Bureaucrats
$0.18 Creature - Human Advisor 1 4 26-Feb-2013 03:02
1 Emmara Tandris
$0.24 Legendary Creature - Elf Shaman 5 7 05-Sep-2015 15:07
1 Fallen Angel
$0.45 Creature - Angel 3 3 27-Mar-2018 01:56
1 Grave Titan
$0.82 Creature - Giant 6 6 26-Jan-2018 03:48
1 Hanweir Militia Captain // Westvale Cult Leader
$0.45 Creature - Human Soldier // Creature - Human Cleric 2 2 26-Jan-2018 03:48
1 Indulgent Tormentor
$0.54 Creature - Demon 5 3 18-Aug-2014 16:48
1 Knotvine Paladin
$0.33 Creature - Human Knight 2 2 26-Feb-2013 03:03
1 Leonin Abunas
$1.02 Creature - Cat Cleric 2 5 26-Feb-2013 03:03
1 Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis
$0.34 Legendary Creature - Demon 5 5 26-Feb-2013 03:03
1 Netherborn Phalanx
$0.30 Creature - Horror 2 4 22-Jun-2017 02:18
1 Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
$5.38 Legendary Creature - Demon 3 3 26-Feb-2013 03:03
1 Pale Recluse
$0.06 Creature - Spider 4 5 26-Feb-2013 03:03
1 Platinum Angel
$6.82 Artifact Creature - Angel 4 4 26-Feb-2013 03:04
1 Prowling Serpopard
$1.31 Creature - Cat Snake 4 3 22-May-2017 02:27
1 Resolute Archangel
$1.18 Creature - Angel 4 4 18-Aug-2014 16:48
1 Rhys the Redeemed
$6.35 Legendary Creature - Elf Warrior 1 1 26-Feb-2013 03:04
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
$0.68 Creature - Demon 6 6 26-Feb-2013 03:04
1 Seraph of the Sword
$0.41 Creature - Angel 3 3 07-Aug-2013 15:59
1 Serra's Guardian
$0.34 Creature - Angel 5 5 07-Sep-2018 01:45
1 Solemn Simulacrum
$0.29 Artifact Creature - Golem 2 2 08-Apr-2017 19:49
1 Subjugator Angel
$0.27 Creature - Angel 4 3 19-Aug-2016 01:06
1 Tireless Tracker
$0.54 Creature - Human Scout 3 2 26-Jan-2018 03:48
1 Trostani's Summoner
$0.10 Creature - Elf Shaman 1 1 07-Jun-2013 20:29
1 Zhang He, Wei General
$66.73 Legendary Creature - Human Soldier 4 2 23-Sep-2017 19:26
Instant (8)
1 Aura Mutation
$2.09 Instant 05-Jan-2017 13:49
1 Congregation at Dawn
$2.03 Instant 26-Feb-2013 03:01
1 Haze of Pollen
$0.06 Instant 22-May-2017 02:27
1 Putrefy
$0.14 Instant 22-Jun-2017 02:17
1 Ready // Willing
$0.25 Instant // Instant // 07-Jun-2013 20:30
1 Rootborn Defenses
$0.13 Instant 26-Feb-2013 03:04
1 Sundering Growth
$0.14 Instant 26-Feb-2013 03:05
1 Sylvan Reclamation
$0.17 Instant 05-Jan-2017 13:50
Sorcery (6)
1 Appeal // Authority
$0.08 Sorcery // Sorcery // 07-Sep-2018 01:44
1 Demonic Tutor
$50.30 Sorcery 03-Mar-2018 21:18
1 Exsanguinate
$0.20 Sorcery 26-Feb-2013 03:02
1 Mastermind's Acquisition
$0.81 Sorcery 21-Jul-2018 22:36
1 Overwhelming Stampede
$2.04 Sorcery 26-Feb-2013 03:03
1 Safewright Quest
$0.23 Sorcery 26-Feb-2013 03:04
Artifact (3)
1 Commander's Sphere
$0.20 Artifact 05-Jan-2017 13:50
1 Sensei's Divining Top
$30.60 Artifact 26-Feb-2013 03:04
1 Whispersilk Cloak
$2.16 Artifact - Equipment 26-Feb-2013 03:05
Enchantment (2)
1 Privileged Position
$2.94 Enchantment 28-Jun-2013 15:13
1 Spirit Mantle
$2.07 Enchantment - Aura 09-Jun-2018 03:18
Planeswalker (1)
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
$2.73 Legendary Planeswalker - Garruk 01-Jun-2015 14:12
Land (43)
1 Ash Barrens
$0.09 Land 05-Jan-2017 14:19
1 Bojuka Bog
$0.90 Land 29-Jan-2014 02:29
1 Bountiful Promenade
$11.26 Land 21-Jul-2018 22:36
1 Brushland
$0.36 Land 26-Feb-2013 03:01
1 Command Tower
$0.25 Land 26-Feb-2013 03:01
6 Forest
$0.85 Basic Land - Forest 14-Oct-2017 22:34
1 Forsaken Sanctuary
$0.13 Land 05-Jan-2017 13:49
1 Fortified Village
$0.27 Land 10-Apr-2016 21:40
1 Gavony Township
$3.58 Land 29-Jan-2014 02:32
1 Godless Shrine
$7.93 Land - Plains Swamp 23-Sep-2017 19:27
1 Grasslands
$0.22 Land 23-Sep-2017 19:27
1 Grim Backwoods
$0.27 Land 29-Jan-2014 02:46
1 Isolated Chapel
$0.67 Land 26-Feb-2013 03:03
1 Leechridden Swamp
$0.40 Land - Swamp 26-Feb-2013 03:03
1 Llanowar Wastes
$0.44 Land 08-Aug-2015 15:38
1 Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers
$5.24 Legendary Land 14-Oct-2017 22:34
1 Overgrown Tomb
$11.31 Land - Swamp Forest 05-Jan-2017 14:24
6 Plains
$0.05 Basic Land - Plains 22-May-2017 02:42
1 Rogue's Passage
$0.30 Land 26-Feb-2013 03:04
1 Sandsteppe Citadel
$0.18 Land 31-Jan-2015 18:25
1 Scattered Groves
$0.38 Land - Forest Plains 22-May-2017 02:27
1 Stirring Wildwood
$0.53 Land 26-Feb-2013 03:04
1 Sunpetal Grove
$0.92 Land 26-Feb-2013 03:05
1 Svogthos, the Restless Tomb
$0.21 Land 26-Feb-2013 03:05
5 Swamp
$0.06 Basic Land - Swamp 14-Oct-2017 22:34
1 Temple Garden
$11.42 Land - Forest Plains 26-Feb-2013 03:05
1 Vitu-Ghazi, the City-Tree
$0.23 Land 26-Feb-2013 03:05
1 Wooded Bastion
$12.47 Land 26-Feb-2013 03:05
1 Woodland Cemetery
$0.67 Land 26-Feb-2013 03:05
Sideboard - 79 cards, 79 distinct
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Name  Ed. Price Type Cost P T Modified
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Creature (38)
1 Angel of Deliverance
$0.19 Creature - Angel 6 6 12-Feb-2017 21:58
1 Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
$0.37 Legendary Creature - Kor Cleric 2 3 18-Sep-2018 19:51
1 Bellowing Tanglewurm
$0.74 Creature - Wurm 4 4 26-Jan-2018 19:14
1 Briarbridge Patrol
$0.18 Creature - Human Warrior 3 3 26-Jan-2018 19:14
1 Byway Courier
$0.09 Creature - Human Scout 3 2 26-Jan-2018 19:14
1 Carnifex Demon
$0.72 Creature - Phyrexian Demon 6 6 12-Feb-2017 21:53
1 Drumhunter
$0.42 Creature - Human Druid Warrior 2 2 20-Sep-2018 02:29
1 Dryad Militant
$0.10 Creature - Dryad Soldier 2 1 20-Sep-2018 13:57
1 Elvish Harbinger
$1.97 Creature - Elf Druid 1 2 20-Sep-2018 02:29
1 Eternal Witness
$0.99 Creature - Human Shaman 2 1 15-Dec-2017 19:59
1 Exquisite Archangel
$2.14 Creature - Angel 5 5 26-Jan-2018 19:16
1 Gorm the Great
$0.81 Legendary Creature - Giant Warrior 2 7 05-Jun-2018 14:07
1 Grand Abolisher
$10.62 Creature - Human Cleric 2 2 12-Feb-2017 21:57
1 Greenseeker
$0.13 Creature - Elf Spellshaper 1 1 12-Feb-2017 21:53
1 Harvester of Souls
$0.86 Creature - Demon 5 5 12-Feb-2017 21:55
1 Jade Mage
$0.15 Creature - Human Shaman 2 1 26-Jan-2018 19:16
1 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
$1.14 Legendary Creature - Zombie Elf 2 2 11-Dec-2018 20:36
1 Knight of Autumn
$0.38 Creature - Dryad Knight 2 1 03-Jan-2019 14:31
1 Lord of Extinction
$0.92 Creature - Elemental * * 12-Feb-2017 21:54
1 Mother of Runes
$5.27 Creature - Human Cleric 1 1 06-Mar-2018 22:32
1 Mwonvuli Beast Tracker
$0.14 Creature - Human Scout 2 1 07-Nov-2017 21:24
1 Mycologist
$0.22 Creature - Human Druid 0 2 31-Aug-2018 02:35
1 Paragon of New Dawns
$0.15 Creature - Human Soldier 2 2 10-Oct-2018 18:55
1 Paragon of Open Graves
$0.22 Creature - Skeleton Warrior 2 2 10-Oct-2018 18:44
1 Poison-Tip Archer
$0.42 Creature - Elf Archer 2 3 06-Sep-2018 17:51
1 Pontiff of Blight
$0.28 Creature - Zombie Cleric 2 7 12-Feb-2017 21:54
1 Reaper of the Wilds
$0.22 Creature - Gorgon 4 5 12-Feb-2017 21:55
1 Rhox
$0.57 Creature - Rhino Beast 5 5 05-Jun-2018 14:28
1 Scion of the Wild
$0.39 Creature - Avatar * * 12-Feb-2017 21:56
1 Shaman of the Pack
$0.29 Creature - Elf Shaman 3 2 12-Aug-2018 21:40
1 Stampede Driver
$0.22 Creature - Human Spellshaper 1 1 19-Mar-2018 16:51
1 Stinkweed Imp
$0.97 Creature - Imp 1 2 26-Jan-2018 19:16
1 Thorn Elemental
$0.05 Creature - Elemental 7 7 05-Jun-2018 14:28
1 Thorn Lieutenant
$0.17 Creature - Elf Warrior 2 3 11-Oct-2018 16:43
1 Triad of Fates
$0.21 Legendary Creature - Human Wizard 3 3 26-Jan-2018 19:14
1 Virtus the Veiled
$5.39 Legendary Creature - Azra Assassin 1 1 05-Jun-2018 14:07
1 Wasteland Viper
$0.18 Creature - Snake 1 2 12-Feb-2017 21:58
1 Wispweaver Angel
$0.12 Creature - Angel 4 4 26-Jan-2018 19:16
Instant (10)
1 Assure // Assemble
$0.10 Instant // Instant // 10-Oct-2018 17:50
1 Druid's Deliverance
$0.14 Instant 09-Jun-2018 03:18
1 Echoing Courage
$0.09 Instant 20-Sep-2018 02:46
1 Echoing Decay
$0.23 Instant 20-Sep-2018 02:44
1 Eerie Interlude
$4.87 Instant 12-Feb-2017 21:58
1 Eladamri's Call
$9.83 Instant 28-Feb-2018 19:44
1 Faith's Reward
$1.20 Instant 12-Feb-2017 21:57
1 Lull
$0.28 Instant 19-Mar-2018 16:49
1 Mercy Killing
$0.35 Instant 12-Feb-2017 21:57
1 Path to Exile
$1.36 Instant 05-Oct-2017 14:46
Sorcery (12)
1 Angelic Purge
$0.09 Sorcery 26-Jan-2018 19:15
1 Austere Command
$0.33 Sorcery 12-Feb-2017 21:56
1 Beneath the Sands
$0.08 Sorcery 26-Feb-2018 20:16
1 Buried Alive
$1.05 Sorcery 02-Jan-2019 16:52
1 Demonic Collusion
$1.81 Sorcery 03-Mar-2018 21:19
1 Devout Invocation
$2.16 Sorcery 12-Feb-2017 21:55
1 Divine Reckoning
$0.56 Sorcery 26-Jan-2018 19:16
1 Kin-Tree Invocation
$0.12 Sorcery 26-Jan-2018 19:15
1 Mastermind's Acquisition
$0.81 Sorcery 26-Jan-2018 19:17
1 Never // Return
$0.25 Sorcery // Sorcery // 31-May-2017 15:01
1 Phyrexian Rebirth
$0.26 Sorcery 21-Jul-2018 22:36
1 Triumph of the Hordes
$13.02 Sorcery 02-May-2017 20:10
Artifact (5)
1 Horizon Spellbomb
$0.08 Artifact 26-Jan-2018 19:15
1 Prowler's Helm
$0.95 Artifact - Equipment 12-Feb-2017 21:54
1 Ring of Three Wishes
$4.84 Artifact 17-Jul-2018 21:54
1 Surestrike Trident
$1.12 Artifact - Equipment 12-Feb-2017 21:58
1 Tainted Sigil
$1.19 Artifact 26-Jan-2018 19:13
Enchantment (4)
1 Ajani's Aid
$0.14 Enchantment 31-May-2017 14:13
1 Always Watching
$0.74 Enchantment 26-Jan-2018 19:15
1 Aura Shards
$15.90 Enchantment 26-Jan-2018 19:15
1 Oblivion Ring
$0.15 Enchantment 12-Feb-2017 21:58
Planeswalker (1)
1 Ajani, Valiant Protector
$2.03 Legendary Planeswalker - Ajani 31-May-2017 14:14
Land (9)
1 Ash Barrens
$0.09 Land 05-Jan-2017 13:48
1 Fetid Heath
$0.38 Land 02-Jan-2019 16:48
1 Graypelt Refuge
$0.16 Land 21-Jul-2018 22:36
1 Memorial to Folly
$0.13 Land 07-Jun-2018 13:56
1 Memorial to Glory
$0.08 Land 07-Jun-2018 13:56
1 Memorial to Unity
$0.12 Land 07-Jun-2018 13:56
1 Myriad Landscape
$0.19 Land 05-Jan-2017 13:48
1 Seraph Sanctuary
$1.23 Land 12-Sep-2018 03:24
1 Sungrass Prairie
$0.14 Land 05-Jan-2017 13:47

Notes
 
Sleeve color: Black
Tokens:
Angel of Sanctions
colorless Clue
1/1 green saproling
1/1 green and white Elf warrior
1/2 green spider w/ reach (OUT)
2/2 white knight w/ vig
3/3 green centaur
4/4 green rhino w/ trample
*/* black and green spirit warrior (OUT)
*/* colorless horror (Mastermind's Acquisition)
2/2 black zombie

Token control card: Droning Bureaucrats; Echoing Decay -> Mastermind's Acquisition

|Mastermind's Acquisition| [] Alive//Well (cmc: 3//1) [] Austere Command (cmc:6) [] Aura Shards (cmc: 3) [] Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim (cmc:2) [] Cataclysmic Gearhulk (cmc:5) [] Constant Mists (cmc:2) [] Eternal Witness (cmc:3) [] Exquisite Archangel (cmc:6) [] Ezuri's Predation (cmc: 8) [] Fell the Mighty (cmc:5) [] Grand Abolisher (cmc:2) [] Hypergenesis [] Loyal Unicorn (cmc:4)(in GoST) [] Mother of Runes (cmc:1) [] Odric, Lunarch Marshal (cmc:4)(in GoST) [] Overrun (cmc: 5) [] Phyrexian Rebirth (cmc:6) [] Quietus Spike (cmc:3) [] Ring of Three Wishes (cmc:5) [] Shaman of the Pack (cmc: 3) [] Skullclamp (cmc:1) [] Spectra Ward (cmc:5)(in Edgar) [] Spirit of the Hearth (cmc:6)(in GoST) [] Sword of Vengence (cmc:3) [] Teferi's Protection (cmc:3)(in Edgar) [] Undead Slayer (cmc:3) [] Vindictive Lich (cmc:4) [] Virtus the Veiled (cmc:3) []

New additions:

***-1 Acidic Slime +1 Knight of Autumn***
Armorcraft Judge
Assure//Assemble
Collective Unconscious
Conclave Guildmage
Deathbloom Thallid
Demonlord Belzenlok(?)
Doom Whisperer
Find//Finality (Mastermind's Acquisition)
***-1 Forest +1 Detection Tower***
Eladamri's Call
***-1 Fallen Angel +1 Trostani Discordant***
Gorm the Great
***-1 Haze of Pollen +1 Lull***
Inspiring Call
Join Shields
Krav, the Unredeemed
()Lyra, Dawnbringer = Angels get +1/+1 and lifelink()
***-1 Okina, Temple (-----> to Prossh) +1 Myrid Landscape (-----> from Breya)***
()-1 Privileged Position +1 Shalai, Voice of Plenty()
Plaguecrafter (Mastermind's Acquisition)
Price of Fame (Mastermind's Acquisition)
***-1Putrefy +1 Status//Statue***
Regna, the Redeemer
***-1 Seraph of the Sword +1 Beast Whisperer***
Severed Strands (Mastermind's Acquisition)
Shanna, Sisay's Legacy(?)
Slimefoot, the Stowaway(?)
Sprouting Renewal
Underrealm Lich
()Virtus the Veiled + Spirit Mantle()

Changes done:

-1 Alive//Well
-1 Might of the Masses
-1 Undead Slayer
                        ******
+1 Appeal//Authority
+1 Demon of Catastrophes
+1 Serra's Guardian
____________________________

-1 Graypelt Refuge
-1 Phyrexian Rebirth
                      ******
+1 Bountiful Promenade
+1 Mastermind's Acquisition
____________________________
-1 Druid's Deliverance +1 Spirit Mantle
________________________
-1 Fell the Mighty +1 Fallen Angel
_________________________
-1 Demonic Collusion +1 Demonic Tudor

Non-bo's:
Comments
  • Shawn | 22-Sep-2014 14:39
    I like the charm, though I never see the last ability being used.  
    • justintryon | 22-Sep-2014 15:10
      I'm on the fence about adding the charm to the deck as I feel like I already have enough (and better) removal, but I do like card draw and +1/+1 counters! I don't have the support of the rest of the deck to best utilize 2 +1/+1 counters and is it really worth 3 mana and 2 life to draw 2 cards?
      • Shawn | 22-Sep-2014 15:31
        3 mana and 2 life to draw cards if you need to with the flexibility to EXILE a creature at instant speed?!   Of course!!


        counters mode blows
        • justintryon | 22-Sep-2014 15:41
          Like I said, still on the fence about it. It only EXILEs a 3 power or greater! Doesn't help me with that Grim Lavamancer that keeps hitting me for 2 :)
          • Shawn | 22-Sep-2014 19:19
            Whose EDH deck runs GL?
            • Knuttypoo | 22-Sep-2014 20:56
              Nobody's
              • justintryon | 24-Sep-2014 13:49
                That was just an example!!!!
                • Shawn | 24-Sep-2014 15:36
                  You should also run Apocalypse Chime incase someone is running Autumn Willow.
                  • Knuttypoo | 24-Sep-2014 15:58
                    You can never be too careful when dealing with sultry Homelands legends.
  • Shawn | 03-Oct-2013 20:43
    I don't like these 2 updates.  You're too crazy about the unblockability.  The helm isn't worth it.  And Triad of Fates is too slow and not worth it.  2 turns to exile another guy and you still give the guy 2 cards.
    • justintryon | 04-Oct-2013 13:42
      IMO, too often Commander games go on forever...so unblockability helps progress the game to a conclusion. Take a look at my list, and imagine Triad of Fates with Angel of Despair or Netherborn Phalanx on the board. Yes it's expensive, and I know I only have 5 CIP creatures, but what if I use it to rescue my Platinum Angel from harm? I think it'll be useful and I'll test and see.
      • Shawn | 07-Oct-2013 14:57
        I was thinking about the Helm when you played it yesterday.  I do like unblockability in some decks.  I run Trailblazer's Boots (which is close to the same thing) in:
        Kresh to swing with general damage
        - Mimeoplasm to get poison across
        - Edric to draw a card (though now that I see it, I'm going to cut it.  I don't need it)
        - Kazuul to protect Kazuul when he has to attack due to my own effects
        - Kaalia to protect her fragile 2/2 body so she can attack and I can drop a dude.


        I don't understand why you need or want unblockability that only affects one creature here.  The only two creatures that are big enough to make a big difference are Avacyn and Lord of Extinction.  I think you'd be better served adding another creature instead since it synergizes with your general more.  The Whispersilk cloak is good here not for the unblockability, but to protect Avacyn or Platinum Angel if you get them out with the shroud.


        I get unblockable in Geist since you want him to swing freely, and maybe even Thrax since he wants to swing (you also have the Master of Cruelties, but if it was just one card in the 99, I wouldn't have bothered).  I just think you'd be better served with something else here.  


        My $.02.
        • justintryon | 07-Oct-2013 16:07
          All excellent points! I'm going to leave it in here for the time being and if something else better comes along I'll remove the Helm (no pun intended) to put in that 'something' else.
          I love MOC and how it makes people freak out! I'll consider putting the Helm in the other deck.
          • Shawn | 07-Oct-2013 16:48
            As bad as it was for you, it was hilarious how frightened Lambert was at the murder king thinking it was the MoC.
        • Shawn | 22-Sep-2014 14:40
          I don't even have any of those decks anymore.  I don't run trailblazers boots anymore either. 
    • justintryon | 22-Sep-2014 15:16
      The Helm is already out, and ideally the Triad is for my own creatures: e.g. Brutalizer Exarch, Netherborn Phalanx, Angel of Despair, Resolute Archangel, or Trostani's Summoner...
      I'm not saying it's not slow, but if the right combination happens it could fuel some interesting games for me. See my comments from Oct 4, 2013
      • Shawn | 22-Sep-2014 15:33
        You've missed the new comment and replied to a very old one.  
        • justintryon | 22-Sep-2014 15:38
          Oops! Weird.
        • Knuttypoo | 22-Sep-2014 20:43
          I should start doing that just to mess with you.
  • Knuttypoo | 11-Aug-2013 00:42
    What's your reasoning behind Undead Slayer?
    • justintryon | 11-Aug-2013 01:35
      Alan and Lefebre have vampire decks; it's dedicated hate for those decks. 
      • Knuttypoo | 11-Aug-2013 02:08
        I don't know about Alan, but Lefebre only has vampires in 21% of his decks. It's too specialized to be consistently useful.
        • justintryon | Edited 12-Aug-2013 18:52
          Ha ha! Look at you Mr. Stats! Yes, it is narrow, but I hardly ever draw it and I like knowing it's in there in case I need it. I know that won't make much sense, but it's the same way I feel about having Artifact/Enchantment destruction; You're only really sorry when you don't have it.
          • Knuttypoo | 18-Nov-2013 21:27
            I see you still have Undead Slayer in there. She's too slow and vulnerable. However, I do agree that she's better than Loam Lion.
            • justintryon | 19-Nov-2013 02:58
              I played it Sunday and both Alan and Lefebre we're playing Vampire generals in the same game. I managed to pull it and play it and Lefebre dispatched it quickly so worried about it was he. It's staying in.
              • Knuttypoo | 19-Nov-2013 21:24
                So it didn't work?
                • justintryon | 20-Nov-2013 13:53
                  I know it's a silver bullet for those decks, and yes it didn't make an impact on the game being exiled, but if it we're destroyed I have several ways to get it back. I also have several ways to find it when needed. For now I will leave her in the list. I may even add one to GoST.
                  • Knuttypoo | 20-Nov-2013 21:33
                    The black decks that will be effected by it usually have too much creature hate for it to last long enough to activate its ability. It might work if you had some way to give it haste, or if you cast it after you already had Priviledged Position out... or maybe Whispersilk Cloak if nobody kills the Slayer before you equip.
  • Knuttypoo | 25-Jul-2013 23:29
    Lord of Extinction doesn't look fun at all. ;) Slap the trident or cloak on it and the shit will hit the fan.
    • Shawn | 26-Jul-2013 14:07
      LoE is one of those cards I've always wanted buy never wanted to pay for.  It'd be ridiculous in my Kresh deck.  
  • Knuttypoo | 22-Jul-2013 23:55
    Greenseeker and Urza's Factory both blow.
    • justintryon | 23-Jul-2013 01:10
      Greenseeker is for mana fixing and the factory makes token creatures. The deck has the ability to make token creatures and this is just one more way to do it. I'll bee adding in some newer cards in M14 and maybe Greenseeker can be retired.
      • Knuttypoo | 23-Jul-2013 02:05
        Greenseeker is one of those cards that is okay in your opening hand, or terrible if you draw it later on. Need something versatile.
  • Knuttypoo | 07-Jun-2013 15:02
    What's Loam Lion doing in there?
    • justintryon | 07-Jun-2013 15:24
      What're you talkin' 'bout Willis? It's one white, it get's pumped by a Forest. It's like Kird Ape for Green/White. I'll admit it's not great, but it'll do the job.
      • Knuttypoo | 07-Jun-2013 17:02
        It belongs in a 60 card deck... unless you have it in there strictly as a mascot.
        • justintryon | 07-Jun-2013 17:26
          A mascot? Unfortunately it's an uncommon, so I can't go and use it in a Pauper Deck. I agree it's not flashy, but he'll hold the groud a bit. Much like a Jedi, I use him only as early defense, never to attack.
          • Knuttypoo | 07-Jun-2013 17:50
            You'd have to have it in your opening hand for it to be even remotely useful... but the rest of the game it would be a dead draw. Hell, for the same amount of mana you could have a Wasteland Viper.
    • justintryon | 07-Jun-2013 15:26
      Also, I've made changes to this version of the deck to include new Dragon's Maze cards. I just haven't updated it online yet.
    • Shawn | 07-Jun-2013 18:10
      I totally agree with Matt on this.  Every time you've played it in a game, I'm always surprised.  It's way too outclassed for EDH.  There's much better things you could do.  After turn 3 or 4, at best it's a chump blocker.
      • justintryon | 07-Jun-2013 19:16
        I'd be happy to swap it out for a Wasteland Viper! I just don't have one. Anyone got a WV to trade?
        • Shawn | 07-Jun-2013 19:19
          I'll need to check, but if I have one I'll give it to you.
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