purvisa's SPECTRE

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- - 1-Star
  - - vin A Lot Like Volume
    - leg A Mess of Potage
    - leg A Plague O' Both Your Houses
    - vin All The Pretty Ghouls
    - vin And Now for the High Jump
    - vin Backstabbers
    - leg Banding Vampires
    - leg Be There Soon
    - leg Bed Of Nails
    - leg Better Than Athlete’s Foot
    - leg Bigger Twigger
    - leg Block Much?
    - leg Brains & Brawn
    - leg Breakdown
    - leg Bullseye
    - vin Cheap Horror Flick
    - vin Chew And Spit
    - vin Chicken Little
    - leg Chinese Water Torture
    - leg Chip Off Some Bad Block
    - leg Chunky Goodness
    - leg Circe
    - vin Concentrated Formula
    - leg Creeping Doom
    - leg Dark as Night
    - leg Dave and Maddie Lose the Moon
    - leg Dave’s Wish
    - leg Death is a Void
    - leg Deep in the Veins
    - leg Detour
    - vin Dingburger
    - leg Don’t Swim in Cold Water 2
    - leg Don't Swim In Cold Water
    - sta Duplo 2
    - leg Earthly Power
    - vin Enchanted Backstabbers
    - leg Festering Life
    - vin Flaming Death
    - leg Flanking
    - leg From the Depths of All
    - leg Gecko and Felson Plot Revenge
    - vin Get The Tweezers
    - leg Going up in Flames
    - vin Got Lamisil?
    - leg Got Lamisil? 2
    - sta Grinding
    - leg Hasty (Generalization)
    - vin Hee Hee, Ha Ha, Ho Ho!
    - leg Hold That Thought
    - leg Hold the Line
    - leg Holy Tartarus
    - leg I Put A Spell On...Something 2
    - vin I’ll Take 65%
    - leg Icy Friends
    - leg Impure Blood
    - vin Iron Supplements 2
    - leg It’s a Bit of a Stretch
    - leg It’s All About Me
    - vin Jon-Erik Hexum Dies
    - vin Kaboom!
    - leg Keep it to Yourself
    - leg Keep On Pushin’ Love
    - leg Land Destruction
    - vin LEGO
    - vin Location, Location, Location
    - leg London Broil
    - leg London Broil 2
    - leg Luthien Tinuviel Packs a Tommy Gun
    - leg Me Likey!
    - leg MicroStomp
    - vin Muck & Mire
    - vin My Beautiful Balloon
    - mod My R
    - vin Natural Disasters
    - leg Nikola, The Inventor
    - mod Nori
    - vin Not That One, Either
    - vin Oh, The, Um, Yeah . . .
    - leg One For All
    - leg Ooooh, Shiny!
    - vin Pages
    - leg Pain
    - leg Pause, Then Duck
    - leg Pestilential Pain
    - vin Pink Pearl
    - leg Pocketful of Posies
    - vin Poison Counters
    - vin Poof
    - vin Recurring Nightmares--For You
    - vin Reduce, Reuse, Recycle
    - vin Revving The Engine
    - leg Robespierre’s Head
    - leg Saturday Night
    - leg Savage Greeting
    - leg Scipio
    - leg Section 125
    - vin Shaky Ground
    - vin Sideways
    - sta Sludge 2
    - leg Sodium And You
    - leg Some Enchanted Morning
    - vin Some Things Just Don’t Pay
    - vin Something Old, Something New
    - leg Something Stinks Here
    - vin Spiky Rhomboid
    - leg Sprouts. Why Did It Have to be Sprouts?
    - vin Starter's Pistol
    - leg Staying Home Today?
    - leg Stupid Christmas
    - leg Sunshine Blue
    - leg Tapping
    - leg That Missing Bond Song
    - leg The Big Slowdown
    - leg The Hidden
    - leg The Imperfect Storm
    - leg The Most Famous Classic Blunder
    - leg The Truce
    - leg The Vanishing
    - leg The Very Spice
    - leg The Watchers
    - vin This Deck Has No Title
    - vin Thus I Refute Thee
    - vin Tick-Tock
    - vin To Be Ore Not To Be
    - mod Tread Lightly
    - leg Truth Be Told . . .
    - leg Verticality
    - leg Wait and See
    - leg Watch Your Step
    - vin Water Torture
    - leg Wet, Wet Whet
    - vin What’s It Gonna Be?
    - vin Yeah...Not So Much
    - vin You’ll Need Prilosec
    - vin Zip Stomp
    - vin Zip-Grind
  - 2-Star
  - - leg A Pile Of Leaves
    - leg Air Disaster
    - vin Algal Bloom
    - vin B-Bam!
    - vin Beat on the Brat
    - vin Begone!
    - leg Better Than GoBots
    - leg Black is Beautiful
    - vin Bleach-Safe
    - mod Blue Lives Matter
    - leg Blue Steel
    - leg Bow Deeply, Pal
    - leg Breaking Point
    - leg CDC
    - leg Coming And Going
    - leg Cow Shit Abounds
    - leg Dave Trainer
    - leg Die Another Day
    - leg Dirt Nap
    - vin Don’t Look Up
    - vin Duplo
    - leg Dutch Elm
    - vin Dutch Treat
    - leg Encanto
    - vin Energetic Redux
    - vin Energy Fools The Magician
    - leg Eraser
    - leg Eye Of The Needle
    - leg Flatline
    - vin Frankie Goes To The Graveyard
    - vin From Astoria
    - leg Gone And Forgotten
    - vin Grey Matter
    - vin Head To Head
    - leg Hi, John, Let's Break Some Rules
    - vin Home Field Advantage
    - leg Humma Kavula
    - leg I Can’t Go For That
    - vin I Have Rites
    - leg Ice Chips
    - mod Impermanence
    - vin In Short Supply
    - leg In The Sticks
    - vin Join the Rebellion! 2
    - vin Jus Ad Bellum
    - leg Just Devices
    - leg Linndale
    - vin Macefield
    - vin Magic Love
    - leg Mama Cass
    - vin Man Versus Machine
    - leg Mill, Counter, Kill
    - vin Mister Anderson
    - leg New Dave Trainer
    - leg Night Sneakers
    - leg Once And Again
    - vin One And Done
    - vin One Bloody Bruise
    - vin Part Of The Circle
    - leg Pile 'Em On
    - mod Punji Sticks
    - vin Red, White, And Blow
    - leg Rumble And Bang
    - leg Sex Minus The Sign
    - vin Shrivel
    - vin Silverman
    - leg Sisyphus 2
    - leg Slither And Hiss
    - vin Sludge
    - vin Soft Shoe
    - leg Soldiering Forward
    - vin Stage Left
    - mod Step-Up Transformer
    - vin Steppin’ On Top Of Your World
    - leg Submerged
    - leg Sunshine Elves
    - leg Sunshine Green
    - mod Suture
    - leg Swimming With The Suckers
    - leg Taking My Time
    - leg The A-Team’s Pilot
    - leg The Big Three
    - vin The Buddy System
    - vin The Buddy System 3
    - leg The Downsizer
    - leg The Exes
    - mod The Lunatic Fringe
    - vin The Sprinters
    - leg The Variable
    - vin They Wanted The Works
    - leg Those Magnificent Men
    - vin Time Out
    - leg To The Teeth
    - vin Venipuncture
    - leg Vibe
    - leg Waiting for Godot
    - leg Ward 14
    - leg Was That Really Necessary?
    - leg Well Fertilized
    - vin Wentworth
    - vin What Doesn’t Kill Ya . . .
    - vin What I Say, Goes
    - leg Where The Heart Is
    - leg Whimsical Today
    - vin Whiteout
  - 3-Star
  - - vin 98.6 On Saturday Night
    - vin A Bit Too Eager
    - leg A Punishing Defense
    - leg A Squadron By Any Other Name
    - leg A Token Effort
    - vin All-American Blood
    - leg Animal Style
    - leg Anka Writes for Sinatra
    - leg Artificial Nature
    - mod B-2
    - leg Batt-Batt
    - leg Big Bad John
    - vin Bigger, Faster, Stronger
    - leg Blender
    - vin Bloody Buddies
    - vin Bloody Fingers
    - vin Boomchild
    - mod Boss-Fight Ready
    - leg BP & The Trees
    - vin Brothers in Arms
    - leg Bruised Up
    - sta Brussels
    - mod Burning Man
    - leg Center of the Apple
    - vin Chew On This
    - leg Churn
    - vin Come ‘n’ Get It
    - vin Dark Things, and Damp
    - leg Dawson
    - vin Death Star’s Goin’ Down
    - vin Death Star’s Goin’ Down 2
    - leg Dizzy
    - leg DOA
    - leg Double Duty
    - mod Dunce Cap
    - vin Eclipse at Noon
    - mod Elliptical Connections
    - leg En Garde
    - vin End Of Souls
    - vin End Run
    - vin Ensign Pulver
    - vin Environmentalism
    - mod Esprit De Corps
    - leg Everything but the Twig
    - sta Exposure
    - vin Fiat Nihil
    - leg Fight Or Flight
    - leg Focus, Daniel-San
    - leg Forest Fires
    - mod Forge The Valley
    - leg From Russia With Love
    - leg Gandhi Of The NRA
    - vin Gift Of The V
    - leg Goblin Tommygun
    - vin Google Approval
    - leg Green Mesa
    - leg Ground Fault
    - vin Ground Zero
    - mod Hai!
    - vin Half A League Onward
    - leg Hands Across America
    - leg Happy Trees
    - leg Hay In A Needlestack
    - leg Hertz Donut
    - vin Hit Fast, Hit Hard
    - leg I Put A Spell On...Something
    - vin I Suck
    - leg I/O
    - leg Idle Banter
    - leg If You Build It...
    - vin Incoming!
    - leg Indirection
    - vin Inspired by Death
    - vin Iron Supplements
    - leg Is It Flu Season Already?
    - vin It Go Poof!
    - leg Jade Death 2
    - leg Jäger
    - vin Join The Rebellion!
    - vin Just Like Microsoft Code
    - leg Kolchak
    - leg Kshatriya
    - mod Leonard McCoy
    - mod Life Is Precious
    - leg Light My Phyr
    - sta Little Acorns
    - leg Livin' the High Life 3
    - leg Livin' Thing
    - mod Look! Over There!
    - vin Lord Acton
    - leg Love Isn't Always On Time
    - leg M-m-m-Mycology
    - leg Man Bites Dog
    - leg Men-At-Arms
    - leg Meow Mix
    - leg Michael Can Really Sting
    - leg Minitrue
    - leg Moss
    - vin Mud Bath
    - mod Multiplier Effect
    - vin Muridae
    - leg Myne, All Myne!
    - leg Navarone
    - vin Network Security
    - vin New Loser
    - leg Nibbles and Bites
    - vin Nipping At Your Heels
    - mod Nitrous Oxide
    - leg No Can Do
    - leg No Refunds
    - leg Number Five Is Alive!
    - vin Oatmeal
    - mod Off The Shelf
    - leg Off You Go
    - vin Oh, How They Eat
    - leg One a-Gnawin’ Deck
    - vin Opposable Thumbs
    - leg Optimus Prime
    - vin Ouch, It Hurts!
    - vin Owie, Owie, Owie!
    - leg Ozymandias
    - leg Periodically, Forever
    - leg Pike Place
    - vin Pile It High
    - leg Pilot Light
    - leg Power To The Goblins!
    - leg Primacy
    - vin Recycler
    - mod Red 5
    - leg Red Rover
    - leg Repudiation
    - mod Roly-Poly
    - leg Romero
    - vin Sally Forth
    - leg Sangria Negro
    - leg Santana's Kind Of Woman
    - vin Sharing The Darkness
    - leg Sharps Container
    - vin Shocking! Positively Shocking!
    - vin Singed Corners
    - vin Slipping Away
    - leg Slipping By
    - vin Smoke-Blackened Pistons Of Steel
    - mod Special Teams
    - leg SPECTRE
    - leg Stand Your Ground
    - leg Stop Right There!
    - vin Student Rebellion
    - leg Sunshine Goblins
    - leg Sunshine Multi
    - leg Sunshine Soldiers
    - leg Supply Lines
    - leg Swimming With The Fishes
    - leg Tetanus 2
    - vin The Biggest Loser
    - vin The Buddy System 2
    - vin The Clean Slate
    - vin The Crab And Goat Parallels
    - vin The Dark Arts
    - leg The DREGs
    - vin The Good Guys
    - leg The Hilly Lumpy Bumpy Part Of Town Outside Of Town
    - vin The Hobbler
    - leg The League
    - mod The Purity of Champions
    - vin The Roil, The Choke 2
    - vin The Roses Of Success
    - leg The Singing Trees
    - leg The Smithy
    - mod The Unit
    - vin The World Is Not Enough
    - leg Throbbing Pain
    - vin Through Hollow Lands
    - leg Tonight, You Sleep With The Fishes
    - vin Top Down Management
    - leg Trampoline
    - leg Triple Threat
    - vin Trituration
    - vin TWD S2
    - leg Uncle Sam Called
    - vin Underfoot
    - leg Unpleasant Options
    - leg Ups And Downs
    - leg Wall Current
    - leg What Ails Ya
    - leg Whop
    - vin Will Ferrell
    - leg Woods Tonight
    - leg Yes We Do
    - leg You’re All Cowards
    - mod You're All Wet
    - vin Your Vanishing Act
    - leg Zukertort
  - 4-Star
  - - vin A Dark Example
    - vin A Friendly Example
    - leg A New Infestation
    - leg A Token Of My Appreciation
    - leg A Watery Example
    - leg Adverse Selection
    - vin Agent Smith
    - vin Al Simmons, Back From Hell
    - leg Alamut
    - leg Alley Creeper
    - leg Alpha And Omega
    - leg Alternate Means
    - vin Amendment 18
    - vin And For My Next Trick . . .
    - leg And Then He Got The Mumps
    - vin Are You Gonna Eat That?
    - vin Arms Akimbo
    - vin Baby Groot
    - vin Bar Brawl
    - leg Barbell Bites
    - leg Beast Mode
    - leg Best Defense
    - leg Beware of the Leopard
    - leg Biting Flames
    - leg Black Mamba
    - mod Blank Frank
    - vin Bletchley Park
    - leg Blitzkrieg
    - mod Bonneville
    - leg Both Ends Burning
    - sta Bowdlerizer
    - leg Brawler
    - leg Bumbershoot
    - leg Butch And Spike And Buzz And Biff
    - leg Bypass Surgery
    - mod Canaan
    - vin Carriers
    - vin Celestial Alignment
    - vin Charged Up
    - vin Classic Pincer Movement
    - leg Cold Fingers
    - leg Communal Living
    - mod Contaigne
    - sta Cost Of Living Increase
    - leg Counting Numbers
    - leg Crushin' Rushin'
    - leg Cyanide
    - leg Damage Battery
    - leg Damage Battery 2
    - leg Darabont's Crew
    - leg Dark Waters
    - leg Davebane
    - mod Death Is A Growth Industry
    - leg Direct
    - leg Discardianism
    - vin Diurnal Motion
    - vin Diurnal Motion 2
    - vin Divinity School
    - vin Don’t Go Around Tonight
    - leg Don't Feed The Goblins
    - mod Double Boiler
    - vin Down And Out
    - vin Dr. No
    - vin Drax The Destroyer
    - leg Drow
    - leg Ductile
    - leg Ebony And Ivory
    - leg El Corazon
    - leg El Corazon 2
    - leg Elassar
    - vin Energetic Creatures
    - sta Enigma
    - leg Essence Of Blue
    - vin Expansionism
    - vin Fang You Very Much
    - vin Fetor of Black
    - leg Fighting Is Not The Answer
    - sta Fire And Fury
    - leg First And Foremost
    - leg Flip It
    - sta Footsteps Of A Fool
    - leg For The Trees
    - leg Freon
    - vin Friends in the Darkness
    - vin Friends of the Earth
    - sta Futturman
    - vin Gas on a Fire
    - leg Gear Crush
    - leg Germ Of An Idea
    - leg Germ Of An Idea 2
    - leg Gibraltar
    - leg Gone Tomorrow
    - vin Gravebound
    - leg Green Visor
    - sta Greenland
    - leg Ground And Pound
    - leg Growth Is A Death Industry
    - vin Happy Pain
    - leg Hogwarts
    - leg Holy Lands
    - vin Honorable Assassination
    - leg Huddled Masses
    - leg Hunka Hunka Burning Love
    - leg I Want It All
    - mod I'm Hunting Wabbits
    - mod In-N-Out
    - leg Irish Spring
    - leg Jade Death
    - leg Johnny Storm
    - mod Joined At The Hip
    - leg Kick Back And Drink Poison
    - leg Kneecapper
    - leg Knowledge and Defense
    - vin Labor Pains
    - vin Larceny
    - vin Leaf Blower
    - leg Leash
    - vin Less Is More
    - leg License To Kill
    - vin Live And Let Die
    - mod Livin’ the High Life
    - leg Livin’ the High Life 2
    - leg Lockdown
    - leg Maladies Sans Frontières
    - leg Me First!
    - leg Metatriptych
    - vin Miss Scarlet
    - vin Mom’s Home
    - leg More For Your Buck
    - leg More Is Better
    - leg Morgana
    - leg Morse Code
    - mod Mud And Sand
    - leg My Swampy Paradise
    - leg Never Fight Alone
    - leg New Mexico
    - vin Nixon's Reelection
    - leg Oh, The Humanity!
    - sta Old Lace
    - mod On The Boardwalk
    - leg One Man's Trash . . .
    - leg Open, Open, Open
    - leg Papers, Please
    - leg Paying For The Privilege
    - mod Phalanx In The Forest
    - leg Pick Your Poison
    - leg Positive Mental Rattitude
    - mod Pure Enemies
    - leg Pussy Galore
    - vin Quantum Of Solace
    - vin Red Dead Redemption
    - mod Red Light, Green Light
    - vin Red Snow
    - mod Redrum
    - mod Reloaded
    - vin Renewed Rioting
    - mod Rerun
    - leg Returns Department
    - mod Revenge Of SWCCG
    - mod Revenge of SWCCG 2
    - leg Right Up The Middle
    - leg Rumble In The Jungle
    - leg Saith The Lord
    - vin Salt-N-Pepa
    - leg Scorched Earth
    - leg Semper Paratus
    - vin Shake The Foundation
    - leg Sharpened Sticks
    - mod Sickly Verdant
    - leg Sicko
    - vin Sinking In The Kitchen
    - leg Sisyphus
    - sta Size Matters
    - leg Sneaky Bastards
    - vin Snowed Under
    - mod Solarizer
    - leg Songs Of Experience
    - mod Speed Kills
    - leg Spewing Spawn
    - leg Spirit Of White
    - vin Starke Wälder
    - vin Stay On Target!
    - vin Steady Beat
    - mod Steve Austin
    - leg Stop The Stopping
    - leg Sumatrana
    - leg Sumatrana 2
    - leg Sumatrana 3
    - vin Sunset Unlimited
    - vin Sunshine Black
    - leg Sunshine Merfolk
    - vin Sunshine Rats
    - leg Sunshine Red
    - leg Sunshine White
    - leg Superabundance
    - leg Surf 'n' Turf
    - leg Survivalist Movement
    - leg Take Your Soul And Throw It Away
    - leg Take Your Soul And Throw It Away 2
    - mod Takin' It To A New One
    - leg Tartarus
    - leg Tauriel
    - leg Territorial Imbalance
    - leg Tetanus
    - vin The Ambivalent Gardener
    - vin The Big Bad
    - leg The Big Bright Green Pleasure Machine
    - leg The Dead And The Dying
    - vin The Man Behind The Curtain
    - mod The Mighty Uke
    - sta The Other Cheek
    - vin The Purple Sky Behind Us
    - vin The Roil, The Choke
    - vin The Rosenberg Secret
    - vin The Short Fuse
    - vin The Sound Of Music
    - vin There Are No Millers Anymore
    - vin There Will Be Blood
    - leg Thin Blood
    - leg Thirst
    - leg Those Who Excelled At Warfare
    - vin Thunderball
    - leg Tipping the Scales
    - leg Tipping the Scales 2
    - vin To Have and Have Not
    - vin Toxic Slick
    - vin Trail Of Tears
    - mod Trigger Warning
    - leg Twenty-Three Pairs
    - sta Typist
    - mod Up And Down
    - vin Up And Over
    - vin Viridescent Times
    - vin Viticulture
    - leg Vodka
    - sta War's Toll
    - leg Watery Tart
    - leg Wet Hinges
    - leg Wet Hinges 2
    - vin What Nature Abhors
    - mod When The Saints Go Marching In
    - vin Why Decide?
    - leg X Marks The Spot
    - leg Yo, G!
    - vin You Make My Blood Boil
    - leg You'll Take It, And You'll Like It!
    - vin Zip Zap Zop
  - 5-Star
  - - leg A Sanguine Disposition
    - leg A Shining Example
    - sta Arsenic
    - leg Beware of the Leopard 2
    - vin Big Night
    - vin Big Night 2
    - vin Big Trees
    - leg Blind Sided
    - mod Blood And Light
    - vin Bloodworks
    - vin Building Up A Charge
    - leg Burn Rate
    - leg Burned By The Fire We Make
    - vin Celsius 233
    - vin Death Becomes You
    - vin Death Starts Doping
    - vin Death Warmed Over
    - vin Death Warmed Over 2
    - vin Death's Warm Embrace
    - leg Dirty Harry
    - leg Doubling Down
    - mod Drafting
    - vin Expiry
    - vin Fast Friends
    - vin Fetter
    - vin Fleeting Existence
    - vin Full Frontal . . . Assault
    - leg Grave Danger
    - leg Grave Magic
    - leg Hassan-i Sabbah
    - leg Hurts So Good
    - leg I’ve Made My Point
    - leg I’ve Made My Point 2
    - leg Jugularity
    - leg Kali
    - vin Libra
    - vin Libra 2
    - leg Lilliputian Brobdingnagians Versus Yahoos
    - leg Listen Up
    - leg Marvin's Annoyance
    - leg Matti Nykanen
    - vin Mediæval Grace
    - leg Monster MASH
    - mod My Squelchy Life
    - leg Nail Bomb
    - leg Nature Of Green
    - mod Necrovita
    - leg Negan
    - leg Negan 2
    - leg Outta My Way!
    - leg Rice Time
    - sta Rototiller
    - leg Second Line
    - leg Silent, But Deadly
    - mod Simply The Best
    - leg Smackdown Mashup
    - leg Spark Of Red
    - leg Stairway To Heaven
    - vin Sting-N-Stab
    - mod Stinger
    - vin Swirlie
    - leg The Fast and the Furious
    - mod The Gadget
    - vin The Quick And The Dead
    - vin The Secret of NiMH
    - leg Try Again
    - leg Unilateral Disarmament
    - leg Unilateral Disarmament 2
    - leg Unsolid Ground
    - leg We All Must Make 'Em
    - leg We All Must Make 'Em 2
    - leg We All Must Make 'Em 3
    - vin What A Blast!
    - leg Whenever
    - vin Where It Hurts
    - vin Where It Hurts 2
    - leg Zakatek Was Right
    - leg Zero Sum

Andrew Purvis's

SPECTRE

Type:

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Approx. Value:

$94.07

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Star Trek
releases on November 13, 2026!

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Main Deck - 60 cards, 14 distinct

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	Name	Ed.	Price	Type	Cost
	Name	Rarity	Price	Type	Color
Creature (30)
4	Basilica Guards		$0.18	Creature - Human Soldier
2	Emancipation Angel		$0.28	Creature - Angel
4	Kor Skyfisher		$0.49	Creature - Kor Soldier
4	Soul Warden		$4.31	Creature - Human Cleric
4	Soul's Attendant		$8.14	Creature - Human Cleric
4	Suture Priest		$1.75	Creature - Phyrexian Cleric
4	Syndic of Tithes		$0.21	Creature - Human Cleric
4	Whitemane Lion		$0.23	Creature - Cat
Instant (4)
2	Harmless Assault		$0.12	Instant
2	Holy Day		$0.47	Instant
Artifact (4)
4	Elixir of Immortality		$0.54	Artifact
Enchantment (2)
2	Blind Obedience		$4.74	Enchantment
Land (20)
1	Karakas		$17.17	Legendary Land
19	Plains		$0.12	Basic Land - Plains

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Notes

This is a new take on extort, using creature bouncing to recycle the spells. I can cast and re-cast creatures, gain life, extort, and even stop some damage. It is pretty fast with a 14/18/6/2 curve and a 1.90 average. The creatures are 8/16/6, with life-gaining at the 1-spot. There really isn’t much more to it than that.

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